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Best tummy tuck with no bl?

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#1 ·
Im looking to do a tummy tuck but would like to avoid a body lift.

I have seen the aev tummy tucker, but was wondering what else was out there (cheaper?). I hate my stock shovel, I can feel it drag every time I wheel.

I have an 05 auto Rubicon LJ with 4' ome coils and shocks.



Thanks
 
#4 ·
UCF (under cover fab) has a very nice aluminum skid now on the market that does require a bodylift, however, they can make it with 1" less "tuck" thereby foregoing the body lift. Instead of gaining 2.5" you gain 1.5" on a 03-06 tj/lj and save roughly 40 lbs in the process.

http://www.undercoverfab.com/transfer-c ... minum.html

That doesn't speak about the reduced "tuck" version. You need to go to the "blog" section and scroll down.
 
#5 ·
AEV sells Nth Degree TT that do not require a body lift. I love mine but it came with my Nth degree LA. I did put one on my wifes old TJ and the clearance was awesome. It will raise the rear of the tranny and it replaces the tranny mount. You do have to make an exaust modification that will require welding. Read the instructions and see if it is something you want to do. But like I said, it does not require a body lift.

https://secure.aev-conversions.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NTH14021AA
 
#6 ·
Nth/AEV. I have one with no BL. No problems.
 
#7 ·
glockster said:
UCF (under cover fab) has a very nice aluminum skid now on the market that does require a bodylift, however, they can make it with 1" less "tuck" thereby foregoing the body lift. Instead of gaining 2.5" you gain 1.5" on a 03-06 tj/lj and save roughly 40 lbs in the process.

http://www.undercoverfab.com/transfer-c ... minum.html

That doesn't speak about the reduced "tuck" version. You need to go to the "blog" section and scroll down.
Their Carbon Steel skid plate seems like a really cheap option for those working with a budget.
 
#8 ·
finder_87 said:
Their Carbon Steel skid plate seems like a really cheap option for those working with a budget.
Yeah, sounds almost too good to be true. You can upgrade to 1/4" steel, add the auto-tranny skid option, and still come out for $270 total. I'd like to see a picture of the auto tranny skid plate option. Couldn't find one on their site...
 
#9 ·
AEV/Nth does market their skid as no BL required. I would strongly urge you to go to their website and download the install instructions and read them carefully. It's your responsibilty to make it work. If your not using a BL then floor mods are required. Each Rubi being different, there may be "touch conditions" that require minor adjustments. The important one: don't drive the Jeep if the transfer case is rubbing.

This could be applied to just about every manufacture of a TT. If you are willing to take the time to make the modifications required for a correct install then you could make just about anyone's work without a BL.

I absolutely hate BL's. After much internal debate I opted to break down and install a 1" BL. Overall it just made things way easier for me. Way more clearance under there to work with. I went with the integrated Rokmen skids. They cover from the front of the oil pan all the way back to the tranny/transfer case. Again, it was a decision based on what was easiest for me using products I believe to be top notch.

Just be prepared for some mod work with whoever's TT you decide to go with if you go the no BL route.
 
#10 ·
nukegm426 aka Martha said:
Phillip said:
All the tummy tuck skid plates require a body lift. You will not find one that doesn't.
wrong again mistake breath....lol. seriously, they all recommend the body lift simply because you don't have to really modify anything to install it that way. i know i have the JKS BL on mine and when i put the clayton skids on there's not alot of room up there afterwards. I wouldn't want to install one without the BL even though it's technically possible.

It might be technically possible, but then it wouldn't be a true tummy tuck.

A tummy tuck = no tummy. If it sticks down a little, its just a glorified skid plate... and doesn't require a body lift. But that's besides the point. :rotflmao:
 
#11 ·
finder_87 said:
glockster said:
UCF (under cover fab) has a very nice aluminum skid now on the market that does require a bodylift, however, they can make it with 1" less "tuck" thereby foregoing the body lift. Instead of gaining 2.5" you gain 1.5" on a 03-06 tj/lj and save roughly 40 lbs in the process.

http://www.undercoverfab.com/transfer-c ... minum.html

That doesn't speak about the reduced "tuck" version. You need to go to the "blog" section and scroll down.
Their Carbon Steel skid plate seems like a really cheap option for those working with a budget.
They offer a 1/4" stainless steel option for 70 bucks over the price of the aluminum version . Seams like a no brainer .
 
#13 ·
I love stainless!

But yeah, by the time a ÂĽ" steel rusts bad enough to care, you've got other problems.

And hey, didn't Nth° first coin the term: "Tummy Tucker"?



Those Under Cover Fabworks products (and prices :) ) have my attention - nice find!

Anyone know more about the company?
 
#16 ·
supr_fly03 said:
AEV sells Nth Degree TT that do not require a body lift. I love mine but it came with my Nth degree LA. I did put one on my wifes old TJ and the clearance was awesome. It will raise the rear of the tranny and it replaces the tranny mount. You do have to make an exaust modification that will require welding. Read the instructions and see if it is something you want to do. But like I said, it does not require a body lift.

https://secure.aev-conversions.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NTH14021AA
Absolutely times 2

The exhaust is a easily solved problem. Also a dimple has to be made by putting a small sleeve at a certain point on the tuck and jacking the tt up. It dimples the floor pan. Again very easy to do--took me about 10 minutes and no problems.
 
#17 ·
I am in Dothan Alabama about 4 times a year so I will be stopping by next time I'm there. I used to go to blue torch all the time to see the new and crazy things they were working on. I will let you guys know what its like. undercoverfab will give me a place to take my son to see the new thing I need for the jeep!!!! :D :D :D

Charles
 
#18 ·
mikel said:
I absolutely hate BL's. After much internal debate I opted to break down and install a 1" BL. Overall it just made things way easier for me. Way more clearance under there to work with. I went with the integrated Rokmen skids. They cover from the front of the oil pan all the way back to the tranny/transfer case. Again, it was a decision based on what was easiest for me using products I believe to be top notch.

I'm almost right there with ya . . . not a fan of the BL, but when I start looking at being able to clear bigger tires, lift the belly and have a bit of room to work with, lift the gas tank and rear bumper, it's starting to make more sense than any of the other options. Still have some miles left on my 33's but may go this route and bump it up to 35's when they wear out.
 
#19 ·
I installed a Teraflex TT with no body lift.

I used the tub "dimple" method that was mentioned above. It was probably the easiest part of the whole install. You will still need a MML and you may have to deal with the exhaust, but I did not. Granted my exhaust is pressed against the heat shield, but after about 800 miles of driving 5 trail runs, I haven't had any issues.

Tub dimple piece:
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#21 ·
I have been interested in these undercover fab skids for a while now. I am impressed with their site and definitly like the prices. Does anyone have one or know anyone who has one?? That is the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger.
 
#23 ·
Stinger said:
supr_fly03 said:
AEV sells Nth Degree TT that do not require a body lift. I love mine but it came with my Nth degree LA. I did put one on my wifes old TJ and the clearance was awesome. It will raise the rear of the tranny and it replaces the tranny mount. You do have to make an exaust modification that will require welding. Read the instructions and see if it is something you want to do. But like I said, it does not require a body lift.

https://secure.aev-conversions.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NTH14021AA
Absolutely times 2

The exhaust is a easily solved problem. Also a dimple has to be made by putting a small sleeve at a certain point on the tuck and jacking the tt up. It dimples the floor pan. Again very easy to do--took me about 10 minutes and no problems.
I did the TT with simple hand tools, a jack, and it took 10 minutes (to dimple) tops. I have so much room that I can almost fit my hand and arm over the top of the t-case between the tub. There is plenty of room. The old Nth flat skid would raise it far more though and I don't think the dimple would be quite enough at the top. Maybe, but it would be tight.

Also, there are no exhaust modifications to be made, that is just when dealing with the full long arm kit.

I've never experienced a clearance issue, nor had any contact with anything since setting this up 5 years ago.

Good luck!
 
#24 ·
The Nth has a different tranny mount that adresses this. I think the 33 one used to have that one too.
 
#25 ·
Yup.... I wish I had a welder... Just imagine the things I could screw up!