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So my TJ Rubi is almost paid off and I am thinking of trading it in for a new JK 4 door. I owe less on the TJ than they are offering me on trade. The TJ is paid off in about 6 months.

There are some pretty good incentives right now and I would be getting a good deal on the trade.

Things I am thinking about.

How capable is a stock 4 door JK Rubicon versus my Lifted TJ Rubi on 33s. Since the JK comes with 32s stock and has better approach and departure angles it should be about the same IMO, other than the break over angle would be slightly worse (running stock skid aka shovel on my TJ still)

How expensive would it be to put 35s (thinking with a 2.5 lift) on the JK over the next year. Would Like to go to Moab next year with a group of local wheelers. Some are lifted XJs on 31-32s and a Lifted Toyota Surf (4 runner) on 33s

Is a 4door JK rubicon a better DD than my TJ as it sits.

Is the payments over the next 5 years worth having a bumper to bumper warranty for the next 3 and power train for 5, vs having a ticking time bomb as it sits right now.

I have spent alot of money on maintenance lately and I know there is more down the line (starter, rear axle bearings need to be done for one). I have been doing most of the repairs myself with the help of some friends but it still costs money to buy the parts. Some of the stuff has been easy to do but I have run into situations where I had to pay alot of money for a shop to do work for me.

I am 28 and working on moving out into a apartment and not sure ill be able to afford a DD and my TJ once the TJ is paid off due to insurance, maintenance storage and repairs on both a DD and a 7 year old TJ. And I am not sure I would be happy with a TJ DD.

I require my vehicle for work as I am often on call and get called into work sometimes to do work after hours etc.

I would like to be able to take road trips without stuff breaking down on the side of the road (hasnt happened yet).

I am hoping someone else has been in a similar situation or some some wisdom or advice they want to share.
 

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I've been thinking the same thing, for the last 2.5 years....... :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

see my thread here: viewtopic.php?p=669648#p669648

Warranty is a good thing.

35s with 2.5"-3" lift is doable.

Mine was a ticking time-bomb, and blew up! (well, not literally, but the motor failed). 7/70 powertrain covered it. Mine's on 04 as well.

JK makes a far more suitable rig for driving long distances.. i.e., a better "road trip" rig.

It never hurts to try and sell it on your own, because you will get far more doing that than trading it in.... though sometimes selling it on your own takes forever.
 

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I've been thinking the same thing, for the last 2.5 years....... :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

see my thread here: viewtopic.php?p=669648#p669648

Warranty is a good thing.

35s with 2.5"-3" lift is doable.

Mine was a ticking time-bomb, and blew up! (well, not literally, but the motor failed). 7/70 powertrain covered it. Mine's on 04 as well.

JK makes a far more suitable rig for driving long distances.. i.e., a better "road trip" rig.

It never hurts to try and sell it on your own, because you will get far more doing that than trading it in.... though sometimes selling it on your own takes forever.

yeah selling it isn't much of a option probably end up in the same price situation as i am now

Considering my jeep is modified they are only offering me 8200 due to the laws here they cant really safety it and resell it so they have to sell it to another used car dealer to try to fix up and make legal again. And I can only imagine how hard it would be to sell a lifted TJ the way it sits, probably would end up back to 8200 after I fixed everything that might need to be changed.

one thing I didnt include is that recently there has been a HUGE crack down on modified vehicles. As it sits with 33s, a 3.25 suspension, and a 1.25 body lift my jeep is illegal.

If I get pulled in for inspection I have 15 days to fix it or the insurance is pulled.

This would mean I would have to get spacers, or different rims to make my track width wider, new fender flares to now cover the tires that stick out, and a set of mud flaps. And this is only the stuff I know for sure is illegal, they also check for maintenance items, leaks, worn out parts etc.

I could build a 4door JK with 35s to be street legal here due to the laws of track width vs frame/body height.
 

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Yikes, now I see why it makes sens to trade it and be done with it.

Every state/province has different laws, etc regarding vehicles. In WA state, we are fortunate to not have to get inspections on our rigs every year or every other year.

I'm looking forward to seeing what changes for the 2012 model year.

Heck, if you fold down the back seat in a JK U, there's room to sleep in one.

I like the larger cargo area, better road manners due to long wheelbase compared to my TJ, and a plethora of other things as well.
 

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I am sure this has all been discussed before but, here's my unsolicited opinion and it is completely sanitized of the "Jeep" thing. I think through this with any "new vehicle versus keeping the old one" thought process while, obviously on a budget. If, I had to face the OP's options, I would think about several things.

1. Six months of payments to have generic vehicle paid off.
2. What is known to be solid on the current vehicle and unlikely to need major repairs soon.
3. Costs of worst case scenarios, such as engine or tranny deaths on current used vehicle versus payments for a new vehicle for another half decade or longer.

These are just a few things that I consider and yes, I am on a budget. Throw in things like modifications and things just go downhill.
 

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I would try and make it "legal", remove the lift etc. or what ever, there are plenty of stock replacement parts on craigslist for cheap, and sell it yourself and get more $. since you already have a lift in mind for the new one, is it going to be legal when your done? i would tell the dealer to pound sand...i dont like dealers for trade-ins..
 

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Well the salesmen found me one here in the city.

Silver,
Leather,
Dualtop
Auto Climate control
6spd
Uconnect

They found it at another dealer they just gotta PDI it and then its all mine, Ill be taking out my stereo and stuff from my TJ tomorrow and I should be able to pick up my new JK on Monday or Tuesday.

Also I may have a side deal on the TJ, that might get me some extra cash instead of trading it in, but I told the person show me the money!
 

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The auto climate control is a MUST HAVE for me... my last truck and my current truck have it.... it's really nice.
 

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The auto climate control is a MUST HAVE for me... my last truck and my current truck have it.... it's really nice.
its all a bonus for me, my TJ doesnt have AC, it was still a option in 04, but I am glad the previous owner went with the dual top anyway, a Jeep isnt a Jeep without a soft top :)
 
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