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i wana here your guys experience and opinions on weither i should go with rokmen or a long arm kit? and your experience on airock vs coilovers? thanks guys every bit of info helps
 

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It would help to know what type of jeep you want?, what type of rig properties are important and what type of wheeling you do? How much wheeling do you do?.....

I run the airock and prefer it over springs, but have never run coil overs. For a TJ the 4" airock can be SA or LA, the 6" must be LA, the Jk only has the 5" kit. Rokmen makes nice arms.
 

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sorry bout that didnt think of that im looking fo dual purpose i will be driving it daily and wheeling literealy every chance im the guy that goes out after work at least every other day the mtn in 5 min away but as for wheeling i like tight trails with pretty hard obsticals steep climbs lots of flexing and snow mmmmm i love snow lol as for properties i want clearance im gona be running rokmens hilines so im lookin at runing around 37'' tires maybe a lil bigger i want to be able to flex alot and still have a nice smooth ride on the road
 

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If you want airock, I have a used airock for sale with Walker Evans remote res shocks.... Ran them with an Nth long arm. Changed directions on my rig and selling the airock. I liked the airock. Plenty of diversity. Makes your jeep into a "******* porsche" as the saying goes. Great for DD and comfortable off road (raise the heigh to soften ride on bumpy roads, lower height to do harder obstacles...).

Let me know when you're interested to make a deal.
 

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Can't tell you much about Airock. The people that have them like the setup. Makes me wonder about what would happen if you loose your air supply? I don't know?? I remember one year on the Ultimate Adventure, one guy lost an airbag and had to borrow a spring from someone else. He got really lucky. I have an opinion about running ARB's front and rear too...loose the pump and you are screwed. On a rig that is going to be somewhere you need both lockers 80% of the time, I like having one locker a manual one like detroit/yukon...etc. I lost an ARB pump on Independence trail system, on Patriot...that really brought on the suck.

Coilovers have there pro's and cons too.

Good: rebuildable, options are endless, performance is what you would expect from 2000.00 worth of shocks.

Bad- need a rebuild around every 3 years. Some go longer, some way shorter, just depends what you get into (mud you will rebuild sooner). Looks like the Kings, Racerunners, bilsteins are the way to go. May want to get a Nitrogen tank to service the shocks. I used to do my own when I raced MX...not that hard, and way cheaper to do then sending them off. On a daily driven rig, I would seriousely concider getting some sort of coil cover. I ran them on my race quads to save the springs/shock shaft from rocks/mud/dirt pitting/wear. Worth every penny.
If you loose a control arm...there is a good chance you will loose a shock too. Make sure you have good links and mounts to your frame. Even then, **** happens. In most cases, it is just about as much cost to buy a new shock then just rebuild the bent one.

Rokmen links look pretty stout...so that would be something to concider. If you are handy with some metal, get some 2" .250 DOM, find a machine shop to thread the ends or get some weldable bungs, make your own links. I did this on my last build and saved myself a ton of money. This also takes the guess work out of how long the links need to be. Just remember, when someone else cuts them to length...you are kinda stuck with it.


Might want to PM some people on here that have run what you are looking for. Mushroomax is running King coilovers, and I do believe he is very happy with them. I have never wheeled his rig (just gone with on trips), but I have driven the TJ on the pavement trying to find out some vibration issues...and that jeep corners, rides like a dream.

On a side note, is there some pretty good wheeling in Casper? I go threw Casper several times per year (will be going through on Oct 1 & 2) and look over at Casper Mountain wondering if it is fun...
 

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Can't tell you much about Airock. The people that have them like the setup. Makes me wonder about what would happen if you loose your air supply? I don't know?
It comes with an "emergency kit" which alls you to set the air pressure manually, cutting off access to the compressor. You can also drive it without pressure, riding the bumpstops to get you out to civilization.

If you're worried about a burst bag, carry a spare. I never had any issues. Most who do have issues are usually doing something stupid.
 

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theres a lil wheeling on casper mtn im about the only one to go up ther exploring out of the ppl here but i have heard of great stuff up there just no one can remember how to get the damn old ppl lol but ive been kinda out of luck cus of broken shafts and being out of a job for 4 months so im looking for stock shafts to get me thru for now lol but if your coming thru hit me up before you come thru maybe we could meet up or something
 

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Stupid like what? Wheeling? I have seen plenty of people cut a sidewall with downed tree branches that pop up....I'm just saying...

Thanks for the info. Sounds like you would be able to get out of a sticky situation with the Airock if needed. What I do like about the AR is having the capability to lower the front or rear for steep obsticles. Can you lower one side for sidehilling too?
 

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Stupid like what? Wheeling? I have seen plenty of people cut a sidewall with downed tree branches that pop up....I'm just saying...

Thanks for the info. Sounds like you would be able to get out of a sticky situation with the Airock if needed. What I do like about the AR is having the capability to lower the front or rear for steep obsticles. Can you lower one side for sidehilling too?

Popped up tree branches aside, stupid wheeling stories include those who drop their front end hard of ledges, etc... Or improper installation, etc.... then there's the people who think airock is invincible and land on their lids. Airock enhances good driving but does not make bad driving good.

I have used airock to dodge tree branches by changing right height and angles. :)

Lowing front and back, yes. Lowering side to side, yes. You can do any and every angle you desire and to varying calibrations. This is true for the 6" airock. I believe the 4" is up or down only.
 

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you can also set it up to lower when you shut it off and you have three different settings for presets off road, highway, and i dont remember lol

i thought the used the same controllers and programing
 

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theres a lil wheeling on casper mtn im about the only one to go up ther exploring out of the ppl here but i have heard of great stuff up there just no one can remeber how to get the damn old ppl lol but ive been kinda out of luck cus of broken chafts and being out of a job for 4 months so im looking for stock shafts to get me thru for now lol but if your coming thru hit me up before you come thru maybe we could meet up or something
I will hit you up.... I will be taking some tires (40" mtr) up to MT and making a quick turnaround with: 4L80E trans, 1 toyota axle, 2 14B axles, seats, 5 39.5/13.5/17 tires, Solid HP center section, 4 H1 beadlock rims...you get the point..LOL. I have a load coming back to CO. PM me your number and I may stop to fuel up instead of driving straight through....might not be a desireable hour..LOL!!

Let me look for some shafts for you. I have a set of spares, but I think they will stay in my spare parts bin..
 

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yea definately love to meet other rubi owners that will do something with there rig than just to say they have a rubi man i hate the posers in this town lol as for the front shafts it would be appreciated (that word looks wrong and i cant figure it out right now)
 

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you can also set it up to lower when you shut it off and you have three different settings for presets off road, highway, and i dont remember lol

i thought the used the same controllers and programing
Just two preset settings... "onroad" and "offroad." The "onroad" preset is the default when the jeep hits 30mph. Swayloc locks and right height goes into auto onroad mode.

It is true you can lower it to desired height at key-off. One of the latest firmware updates allows you to set key-off height. Prior to that, it was all down or no down at key-off.

I remember reading somewhere that the 4" doesn't do side to side... or maybe I'm completely mistaken on that and dreamed it all up. Either way, my experience is with the 6" and can speak about that. :)
 

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You well love the rokmen stuff. give Dave or Jeff a call at rokmen and just give them a quick chat about what you want to do with your jeep and they well help you figure it out. The airrock kit is cool, but also it may not be what you want with your jeep. Try finding someone that has it installed and take a ride it in.

In terms of LA or SA, I have seen both systems flex very well. I know plenty of guys on SA's that outflex LA's, granted I have seen the other side likewise. Flex also all depends on proper setup of the suspension to fully max your travel. I know this cause I can gain another 4'' out of my LA's but I am limited due to shock ext/coll. Granted even with that limitation I out flex most rigs that run CO's and have upwards of 6 to 10k in there suspension systems. Again all is in proper setup.
 
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