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I've been wanting to relocate my Locker Air Pumps for a while now, finally got around to it (before snow flies). So here's a picture show:



Aren't these mounts cadium plated?



WTF was JEEP thinking mounting these things down there? :mad: My Rubicon is only 2004, but New England Winters hard as hell on metal.



Eww. How much are these things?



Spent a few minutes with a wire brush and a little paint. Hammertone dries nice and fast.



Pulled the wire sheath off the pump harness (it was full of mud, surprise). After much deliberation I decided it would be easier and smarter to extend the pump wires with a harness rather than extending the Jeep harness. Just the red and the black wires were extended, the pinks where sealed off.



The business end of the pump(s) new harness.



The pumps mounted to the ABS shelf/plate (yes, it was starting to show alittle rust too). Note the wire harness on the pumps. The wires are about 6' long and all connections are soldered/heat shrinked.



And here they are in their new home. I pulled the front air line out of the wire conduit and ran the air line up to the new location. I added a new line (fed it down through that wire conduit) to mate up with original rear air line. The vent line was removed from the rear and relocated now on the fire wall. :thumbsup:
 

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maybe I know this already, but what is the reasoning for doing away with the pink wires on the pumps?
 

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Awesome job! I have been looking to do this for awhile and this is another option I didn't think of before. Keep us posted on how it works out for you
 

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Moved mine right before last winter. Glad I did because we got 144 inches of snow last winter up here at the south rim.

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Thanks for the post. I am going to install a tummy tucker and was not sure about the directions to install the air pumps to the frame rail. this is much better. How much trouble was it to fish the wires out of the conduit? I am also wondering about you comment on the pink wires.

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The pink wires are not used on the Rubicon. They must serve some purpose on a different application (but not on the Rubi).

The only sheath I fished wires out of was the short section of wire from the pumps to the plug connector. And I didn't really "fish it out", I cut it off. This is what's different about my Relocated Air Pump Project: I extended the pump harness, not the vehicle harness. It just seemed like the wiser and easier method. I'd much rather solder and shrink wires on a bench than try to make a weather proof connections under the Jeep in a hard to reach spot (there's not much factory harness down there to work with either). I did fish the front locker hose out of the conduit from the old pump location, stopping just below the ABS tray. The new rear extension line was stuffed in the same conduit, to link up with factory locker hose.

The whole project took me a couple of hours, total, taking my time, checking and deciding. I did over a couple of days 'cause of the rust removal and painting.

My parts list:
5/32" vacuum & wind shield washer hose, 6 ft (came in a box)
20' 18 awg black wire
20' 18 awg red wire
3/8 conduit, 5' (came in a bag)
air line connector (1/4"?)
shrink wrap for wires (had on hand)
cloth tape to wrap expose wires (had on hand)
solder (had on hand)
paint (had on hand)

I re-used the stock intake hose (it's nylon tied to the fuel filler neck) and the rear locker air line (cause I only had 6 feet of hose).

Oh, and so far it works killer! Musta been leaking air before, but my lockers engage even faster now. :fadein:
 

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DanZ51,

Thanks for the great post and the answer to questions. This is a great upgrade from the stock location. Seems it should have been done at the factory. I really like the idea of the pumps being accessible when stuck in the mud.
I know the tummy tucker installation is going to get this modification rather than the one recommended by AEV. I understand why they did what they recommended, but this is just to smart.

Gold03
 

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I also replaced all my air lines as well. I found one section that was dry rotted.
 

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gold03 said:
Thanks for the post. I am going to install a tummy tucker and was not sure about the directions to install the air pumps to the frame rail. this is much better. How much trouble was it to fish the wires out of the conduit? I am also wondering about you comment on the pink wires.

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TT or Tummy Tucker was a name for the Nth Degree, later AEV/Nth TT TC skid. I have one and there is there is no attaching it to the frame rail. Maybe you have another brand and just calling it a TT? If, you do have a TT, PM me and I can help you with those frakking instructions if, you do decide to mount it underneath.
 

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Great Post, It helped me in moving mine onto the top drivers front wheel well.
 

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I have ripped lines out in the past, one of them taking the nipple on the pump out. When I put new pumps on, I put a splice in the line about 8 inches away from the pump and zip tied the short line so it would not break the pump if it occurred again. cheap insurance.
 

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This got me excited to get out in the cold to work on the Jeep. It didn't take that long once I realized I didn't have enough wire and ran to the store. I think the longest part was trying to get the hole pattern for the pumps. I put mine up on the fender well.
 

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i have a problem of them getting full of ice and shorting out that a very good spot , when you pulled out the air breather line from the top of the tank how did you get it out ?
 

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I just snipped the zip ties and fed it back out the loom.
Yup, I pulled the screws at the fuel filler recess. This let me get my hand in there with a pair of ***** (pliers) to snip that Zip tie that holds the breather hose to the fuel filler hose.
 

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After looking closely at your pics I noticed that the tubing has 1/4" written on it, as verses 5/32" that you said you bought. I then checked the parts fiche I have for my '03 and it said 1/4" also. Just wanted to point out the difference to anyone planning on doing the relocation, as I will be doing shortly.
 

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Sharp eye, but you're looking at the vent line. I didn't purchase any vent line, I reused the original vent line. What size does the parts manual show for the compressor supply tubing?
 
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