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I’ve previously owned 2 LJUR’s and an early Bronco. Its between the LJ and JL for me now since Ford is dragging its feet and not showing what the new Bronco will have. I’m getting back into a Jeep and can’t decide between two types. I love the LJ and am looking at a real clean Rubicon Sahara with 64k miles. I like that it is older and that would not feel the need to baby it and no hesitation in modifying. I’m also getting older and like having the heated seats and comfort/reliability of a new Jeep.

2020 JLUR or 2005 LJURS?

I would love to hear from all but especially those who have owned both. Located in California for weather and off road type.

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I love my LJ and intend on keeping it forever. But I also own a JLUR and it's a no brainer if you have to choose one of them. JL.

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You should do the JL and send me a link to the LJ that's for sale haha.

The JL is going to get better gas millage, have more modern comforts and amenities amd will have a warranty. After market parts are slowly rolling out and will be the norm and plentiful unlike TJ/LJ parts.

The LJ is a true and tried platform and is basic and works. Aftermarket parts are still around but not as much as there are for the JK and soon JL. The 4.0L is bullet proof but also a dog.

If I had the money I'd look at a stock low miles JK 4dr as I find I'd like more room than what my TJ provides. I regret not getting an LJ but I've invested too much money in my TJ now to go back. Plus if I get a new vehicle it'll be my DD and thus would need to be able to tow the Heep.

Either way you'll have a smile cause you'll be in a Jeep. Be sure to keep us posted and post pictures! I will add I do like that JL Bikini color.
 

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Thanks DAA, why a no brained? The JL is that far superior in every way?

Thanks 97heap, good points.
I compare them like driving a Tacoma, then a Tundra as a comparison. Both are pickups, yet size, ride & drive are different enough to make them not comparable. I can fit my TJ through places I wouldn't think of shoehorning a JKU/JLU. On a same/same note... Comparing my wife's previous JKU to her new JLU is a nice upgrade. Drive them all and chose what fits your needs best.
 

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I love my 4.0 and plan on rebuilding it when that day comes, but I am open to new thought. I jumped from an old CJ to my TJ, but at that time the coil springs over leaf and fuel injection over carburetor got my attention. The rear disc brakes didn’t hurt either.

I wish Jeep would settle down a bit and quit tweaking the formula. It reminds me of Coke where I worked for 37 years. When I first hired on I enjoyed 10 years of consistent goals and growth. Then we went through a time where we were sold off about every 3-5 years. The new owners would sell off, strip, gut, or fire anyone to increase the bottom line and sell us for a profit. I literally saw whole departments come in on a Monday and be escorted out 30 minutes later withouy notice. Finally Coke learned their lesson and went for a better long term vision. When I left it had actually returned to the business model of when I was hired.

Coke being sold....I should clarify. Someone somewhere has the ultimate power, formula, and brand name control. That entity is who decided enough is enough with the sub ownerships.

Sorry for the rant. I guess I’d be comparing the axles, axle tubes, and engine quirks. I’d be comparing which one is going to tempt me to swear more as I attempt to replace something.
 

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Well, my take

The LJ is a narrower package, front seat area you are closer together. Defiantly feels smaller than my JK. No real usable back seat. So interior wise gotta make some decisions there. Its the what do you want the Jeep for. Yes comparing to a JK, but the JL didn’t get smaller. I like this, some may not.

Modifications for a LJ are diminishing faster than the TJ. Both are diminishing but fewer sources and options. Even less for the LJ. In the process of building the LJ and feels this way. Can’t blame them not that many LJs built. If you get one make your plans quick and get the stuff you want long term.

Heated seats can be put in anything.

I also like less computer interactions in the older models. Less stuff to get in the way off road, yes I want to back into that rock wall, no I don’t want to hear the beep beep or no throttle because the computer says don’t do it.

All in all, it’s about long term plans. No wrong answer
 

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I'll also add to the think long term .... the ki ks in the LJ are worked out and most if not all recalls should be figured out by now. However, mopar is is no longer really supporting the LJ so it's becoming harder to source factory parts.

The JL is new and all the bugs might not be worked out but the dealer is fully supporting the vehicle so recalls might appear but factory parts are plentiful.

Like said above it's about the long term. The JL has factory support, warranty but still might have bugs.
 

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I jumped from an old CJ to my TJ...The rear disc brakes didn’t hurt either.
Man, the brakes on the JL... Dang! It stops. Like, actually, stops!

The JL brakes finally pushed me over the edge to do something real about the brakes on the LJ. Project isn't finished, but should be able to get it all put together over the 4th of July hopefully. 13" rotors for a 2007 Mercedes S550, dual piston calipers for a new WK2 and knuckles from an '88 XJ, hoping for some good improvement.

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For classic true Jeep style. Tj Lj is the last “real” Jeep. Parts will be getting harder to find but there’s a lot of 03-06 Tj’s out there for that. Not much different in the 2 models minus the longer length.

If you are looking for something that is comfortable and has all the bells in whistles, the JL can’t be beat. It looks was better than the soccer mom JK model. The JL is also a soccer mom car but it’s better looking. Lol



If you want a Jeep that isn’t going to be on every corner the Lj is it. I had to look for over 2 years to find a nice one. The one I just picked up only had 4K miles. It’s probably the coolest Jeep I have owned and I’ve had plenty.
 

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Now that I've been able to wheel the JLUR a bit, I think it's even still that much more better than the LJ.

If - and it's not actually a realistic "if" - but "if" you don't include price in the consideration, the JL is just orders of magnitude better. For everything. Including building a serious trail rig.

Again, if money weren't a concern (but it is!), I'd way rather start a serious build with a JL than a TJ. I mean, I'm sure there is something on the LJ that is better, but I can't think of anything right now. Axles, motor, trans, frame, geometry, brakes, power, economy, comfort,convenience.

I appreciate the simplicity of the LJ and the relative lack of electronics. But, at the same time, I don't find the electronics of the JL particularly daunting, either, and in fact see some distinct advantages to computerization in some areas.

I love my LJ though. It's not going anywhere and it's not sitting in the garage unused either.

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Is the JL suspension different from the JK? I was looking at a JKUR on a lift in a 4x4 shop and the guy was pointing out all of the issues doing a lift on this model.

As you point out, the simple electronics in the TJ/LJ is a huge advantage over the JK/JL, I've seen trailmates stranded due to the PCM thinking it's in a skid (or whatever it was.)
 

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IMO

For the $ that a JL will cost you can build a LJ that will be better off road and more dependable, 60's, linked, coilovers etc. Heck drop a LS in one and likely still under what a JL Rubicon will cost
Dependable, easier to mod and work on. Fuel MPG's same. Tight trails esp with brush LJ wins every time.

Only things the JL has is more creature comforts and tech, and additional room inside.
 

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Id take the LJ everytime, much easier to work on as a backyard mechanic, alot less to brake as far as sensors and plastics and widgets, and when stuff does go wrong its far cheaper and easier to replace, get a used Tcase,transmission,axle ect for 200$ instead of $2000 for the new takeoffs.
the LJ is going to alot more unique assuming youre the type to build bumpers fenders ect and not just order them, if youd find youself order prebuilt/bolt on parts theres going to be much more for the JL, any area the LJ doesnt share the part with the TJ its gonna be really hard and expensive comparatively to find that part.. i couldnt see me buying a 60k rig putting more into building it and still being able to enjoy offroading it, but if you pick up a nice LJ for 5-8k and dump a few into getting it set up on 35s and some personal customization its a little easier to go beat on a 10k rig, youll bounce back from sending 10k into a lake at 5,000rpms than you will if the JL got wrote off and wasnt insurable

My two cents anyway, LJs tend to be built JLs tend to be bought, with exceptions to both
 

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IMO

For the $ that a JL will cost you can build a LJ that will be better off road and more dependable, 60's, linked, coilovers etc. Heck drop a LS in one and likely still under what a JL Rubicon will cost
Dependable, easier to mod and work on. Fuel MPG's same. Tight trails esp with brush LJ wins every time.

Only things the JL has is more creature comforts and tech, and additional room inside.

This!!!!!

I've had built JK's and LJ's..JK can carry more stuff esp removing the back seat but the LJ can carry 90% as much by building a rack inside.

Tight trails are so much easier with a LJ vs a 4 door.

Both platforms need a LS or maybe for the JL the diesel.

By the time you build out a new JL with tons and all the goodies you will have $100k in it, you could buy a used built LS JK and LJ for that.
 
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