Looking for a welder and dual battery setup...

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DJRobB

Discussion Starter · Dec 17, 2010

During my last off road trip my Tie rod end stripped out of my tie rod. Boy did i wish i had a welder with me.

So....

I'm Looking for a welder and dual battery setup.

What's the going thing now days?

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bojang

· #2 · Dec 17, 2010

Just saw this the other day. Haven't looked into it much, so I have no idea how it really works, and would be way, way, down on my list of stuff to do.

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=66374

JeepnBlake

· #3 · Dec 18, 2010

http://www.premierpowerwelder.com/

DJRobB

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 18, 2010

JeepnBlake said:
http://www.premierpowerwelder.com/

Looks interesting.

How does that compare to http://www.readywelder.com/

bob1340

· #5 · Dec 18, 2010

bojang said:
Just saw this the other day. Haven't looked into it much, so I have no idea how it really works, and would be way, way, down on my list of stuff to do.

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=66374

I like that.

'05TJLWBRUBY

· #6 · Dec 29, 2010

Depends on what style you want. The ready welder is a great spool gun/mig type welder that can use gas. Can weld aluminum, stainless, mild and up to 3/4" thick at 300amp if setup properly, or as thin as 24 ga if I remember right. Hooks to your battery/s for setup in series or can be used as a spool gun hooked to your mig at home. Here's a great read on it:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Readywelder/

Or, if you want a hard-mounted unit, the Premier Power Welder is hard to beat. It's a high-frequency welder that also has a 110v outlet on it to power grinders, drills, etc. Here's a good read on it:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/productreviews/del_welder/

I hope to have both on my rig here shortly.

Best of Luck,

Mike

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DJRobB

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 29, 2010

Thanks for the help

bbusch

· #8 · Jan 6, 2011

:fadein:

Yup got the Premier Power Welder going on with the Kilby bracket and also the Kilby dual battery setup with yellow top Optimas split with a Multiple battery regulator... everything fits nicely.

fujimo

· #9 · Jan 6, 2011

bbusch said:
:fadein:

Yup got the Premier Power Welder going on with the Kilby bracket and also the Kilby dual battery setup with yellow top Optimas split with a Multiple battery regulator... everything fits nicely.

Mind sharing your wiring diagram for the dual battery setup?

DJRobB

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 6, 2011

fujimo said:
bbusch said:

:fadein:

Yup got the Premier Power Welder going on with the Kilby bracket and also the Kilby dual battery setup with yellow top Optimas split with a Multiple battery regulator... everything fits nicely.

Click to expand...

Mind sharing your wiring diagram for the dual battery setup?

X2

and post pix

thanks

C4

· #11 · Jan 6, 2011

Why spend all that money when all you need is two batteries and two sets of jumper cables? http://www.4x4wire.com/isuzu/minutemods/welder/
Got me out of a jam at least a half dozen times, maybe a dozen

'05TJLWBRUBY

· #12 · Jan 6, 2011

I've read that before and seen it done a few times. For trail repairs, it does work well. In my case, setting up a mobile outfit to handle a variety of chores and work at the ranch all over the property fixing everything from cattle panels and gates, fencing, etc., to repairs on any of our dozer, backhoes, dump truck, tractors, etc.-I want something a little more solid/durable and designed for the job. On a trail or wheeling trip, pulling a couple batteries to do a repair and get back going again wouldn't be a bad thing at all as it likely wouldn't happen all the time. For constant work though, I see it as more of a hassle/hinderence than anything. All depends on your intended useage though. Like I said, that method does work well. Hell, a buddy even did this exact thing on one of my old Chev trucks years ago to a broken shock mount. You're right though-the $1200 for a premier, or even $500 for a ready welder is a fair chunk of change to pack around in the Jeep just for "stand by" useage. With the premier though, the 110v is great for using the grinder as well to clean properly before welding, or a variety of other uses as well.

Best of Luck,

Mike

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C4

· #13 · Jan 6, 2011

That logic makes perfect sense to me. I can see the benefit in that scenario for sure. I would be worried to death lugging a ready welder around in my Jeep. I'd be afraid to be anywhere away from it for the fear that it would get ripped off. Not alot of ways to really secure it.

'05TJLWBRUBY

· #14 · Jan 7, 2011

C4 said:
I'd be afraid to be anywhere away from it for the fear that it would get ripped off. Not alot of ways to really secure it.

Believe me-this worries me too. I'm hoping when the trailer is done, it will be secure enough to not worry too much. Besides, I'll be around it probably 98% of the time or at least close by, and when I'm not, it will be in the shop at home. I am looking at alternative storage/lockable solutions for inside the Jeep too though for both this, and other items as well. Haven't really seen or found anything I'm really "sold" on though and haven't come up with any real workable ideas to build that would be easy to remove quickly if need be, depending on if I run the back seat or not for the kids. Always something to consider.

Best of Luck,

Mike

bbusch

· #15 · Jan 8, 2011

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DJRobB said:
fujimo said:

bbusch said:

:fadein:

Yup got the Premier Power Welder going on with the Kilby bracket and also the Kilby dual battery setup with yellow top Optimas split with a Multiple battery regulator... everything fits nicely.

Click to expand...

Mind sharing your wiring diagram for the dual battery setup?

Click to expand...

X2

and post pix

thanks

I will post some pics as soon as I can the rig is in pieces at the moment (motor drama... being rebuilt with Hesco parts).

Got a few pics and I will describe the best I can my wiring setup, fairly simple really...

As for a regulator I am running an Orion products Wired MBR 70 multiple battery regulator. To include the unit w/an additional battery it's best to start with two new batteries of the same model number. You will need additional posts so you can run a 2AWG wire from the positive post of the main battery to the MBR 70 pictured below and simply run the wire back out the MBR 70 to the auxiliary battery and ground the auxiliary battery solidly.

Pics of the MBR 70

The unit works in such a way that you cannot drain the main battery if you don't run your extras off the main, charge goes one direction toward the MBR 70 out to the auxiliary Optima (in my case).

Kilby dual battery tray

Kilby PPWelder tray

The a/c line is being installed as the motor is going back in (have to refill the Freon), hopefully getting the heep back Monday afternoon.

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fujimo

· #16 · Jan 8, 2011

So, if I understand correctly, you won't have any switching options? For example, you can't "select" a battery to start from (off>main>alternate>both)?

Thanks for the pics, post up more as you get it installed!

bbusch

· #17 · Jan 9, 2011

fujimo said:
So, if I understand correctly, you won't have any switching options? For example, you can't "select" a battery to start from (off>main>alternate>both)?

Thanks for the pics, post up more as you get it installed!

I have not decided yet if I want a switch but by all means it can be added into the MBR 70's red relay wire. Really the way the unit is designed to work it is not necessary to have a switch, the regulator is the brain so to speak behind how I want my dual battery setup to work. IMO it may be one of the better setups I have ever seen for both the audio and Jeep markets.

I will post more pics up once the battery setup is installed, the welder tray is going in as well w/an MCAI but the PPW unit probably will not be mounted until this treacherous winter is over.

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