Help, what would you???

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Rubik0nkidd45

Discussion Starter · Nov 26, 2010

Hey Guys, so I notice my winch cable was alittle loose from a wheeling trip about a month
ago! So I turn the Jeep on and I start winching the cable back in, then the Jeep dies on me!
No more battery juice at all! ***Big Question is what kind of battery should I upgrade too?
I want a Oddessy battery but what model?
If anyone has any suggestions or comments on these batteries!
Please let me know! Any pics anything?
I run a Warn 9.5ti winch, and soon I want to put some Lightforce lights on!
I was looking into a dual battery system from kodiak systems!
Anyone have any comments on these guys?
Thanks again!
Rk. 45

http://www.kodiakinc.com/powersystems/d ... ykits.html

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warsw

· #2 · Nov 26, 2010

The Sears Diehard Platinum seems to be the hot set-up now days. They are made by Oddessy and run around $200.00.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850034000P

SweetPee

· #3 · Nov 26, 2010

warsw said:
The Sears Diehard Platinum seems to be the hot set-up now days. They are made by Oddessy and run around $200.00.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850034000P

Xs2 on the sears! Made by oddessy, great warranty, and tough! I think I got the big one, the P1 size. It will fit easy in an 03/04 but takes a little work on the later models. There are many threads about them, I think this deal/mod was first discovered by Elwarpo.

BLACK RUBI

· #4 · Nov 27, 2010

More info here: TJ Communications And Electronics

Which OPtima : Yellow or Blue ?

gregert12

· #5 · Nov 27, 2010

SweetPee said:
warsw said:

The Sears Diehard Platinum seems to be the hot set-up now days. They are made by Oddessy and run around $200.00.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850034000P

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Xs2 on the sears! Made by oddessy, great warranty, and tough! I think I got the big one, the P1 size. It will fit easy in an 03/04 but takes a little work on the later models. There are many threads about them, I think this deal/mod was first discovered by Elwarpo.

My local sears a few hours ago had this listed for $200

Rubik0nkidd45

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 27, 2010

Thanks guys! I'm really not looking into any kind of Optima Battery!
There is alot of people complaing about how the brand has changed
The quality went down the drain! Oddessey is the way to go, but if this
Die Hard is the same thing I might as well go with it for a cheaper price!
Looking forward to running Lightforce 170's soon! Plus the winch is alot
of pressure on the battery! I just hope this works!!!
Rk.45

Elwarpo

· #7 · Nov 28, 2010

The P1 and P4 sears platinum are the same size as the stock battery. The P2 is a bit bigger and has a few more CCA (930 versus 880). Both fit into an 03-04 since it has the top tie-down. In an 05-06 you need to do a bit of work (write-up in progress) as they have the wedge shaped bottom tiedown. I am running P-2s i both my 04TJ and 06LJ, and a P-1 in my daughters Liberty. The wife's WJ will get one when the battery goes.

KaiserJeep

· #8 · Nov 28, 2010

The thing is, if you have a dual battery setup, most are designed for Optima batteries, or similar spiral-wrapped battery cells. You cannot use a Sears AGM battery because it is rectangular and won't fit a dual battery tray designed to carry two Optima's.

My two Optimas have been running since 2004, and if one ever dies, I have a spare right beside it.

wsm04rubi

· #9 · Nov 28, 2010

Here are just a few of the options out there for running dual batteries with the Odyssey/Sears batteries:

http://www.off-roadweb.com/tech/0803or_dual_battery_setup_seamless_switching/photo_06.html

http://www.quadratec.com/products/17004_18.htm

http://www.stu-offroad.com/electrical/kodiak/kodiak-1.htm

Elwarpo

· #10 · Nov 28, 2010

Also going for the P-5 or p-6 Platinum batteries which can be mounted in any position but upside down.

Sears
P-1/P-4 7.8 x 6.8 x 10.9 Size 34 880CCA
P-2 7.4 x 7.2 x 11.8 Size 65 930 CCA
P-5 8.9 x 6.9 x 9.5 Size 35 740 CCA
P-6 8.9 x 6.9 x 9.5 Size 25 740 CCA

Optima
7.8 x 6.8 x 10 Size 34/78

The other thing is who is making dual setups now, Kilby and Mean Green no longer make them

Elwarpo

· #11 · Nov 28, 2010

Ok upon searching
Smittybilt still makes one similar to the mean Green one. They say "Optima style batteries but do they mean size or batteries that can be mounted sideways?
http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/73.htm

Here are two P-1s in a Kilby tray by Beowulf

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Rubik0nkidd45

Discussion Starter · #12 · Nov 29, 2010

From it looks like I am shooting more towards the Kodiak dual kit!
(Pc1200's) $795.00 is pretty steep, but I guess peace of mind!
With lights, winch, and who knows what else I will add later?!
It looks like the right choice, plus I called and customer service was great!

Does anyone run this setup? And how hard is it to install?

KaiserJeep

· #13 · Nov 30, 2010

The Mean Green or Smittybilt dual battery kits cost $170 or $150 and allow the use of two fullsize Group 34/78 Optima batteries in a TJ/LJ, without the need for a $100 A/C Freon pumpdown and replacement charge as with the Kilby setup. Then you can roll your own battery management using marine-type battery switches. None of the other total solutions are as economical.

kidmugg

· #14 · Nov 30, 2010

Rubik0nkidd45 said:
From it looks like I am shooting more towards the Kodiak dual kit!
(Pc1200's) $795.00 is pretty steep, but I guess peace of mind!
With lights, winch, and who knows what else I will add later?!
It looks like the right choice, plus I called and customer service was great!

Does anyone run this setup? And how hard is it to install?

I ran it. It's a good setup. I had it installed.

I pulled it because I was having electrical issues unrelated to the dual battery. I just needed to simplify things under the hood.

Rubik0nkidd45

Discussion Starter · #15 · Dec 2, 2010

Do you still have the battery kit Kidmugg? (Not the battery's, just the connection's and switch's and tray)
I really like the Odyssey battery or the DieHard Sears brand! I just want something that I know I won't have to worry about! Peace of Mind!

87Warrior

· #16 · Dec 2, 2010

Rubik0nkidd45 said:
I really like the Odyssey battery or the DieHard Sears brand! I just want something that I know I won't have to worry about! Peace of Mind!

My Sears Platinum has not yet let me down in the 4 years it has been under the hood, attached to a winch. I do not have a dual battery set up or a higher end alternator, just the stock charging system. I have ran the radio for hours on end with no start and even left my lights on for...well, many hours

and she has always fired right up. In sub zero temperatures it cranks as if it is 100 degrees outside. I have never had any battery light show up during a long winch session either. For the cost, I don't think you could do much better.

David T

· #17 · Dec 5, 2010

Yep its a dang good battery

papas63

· #18 · Dec 5, 2010

My Sears Diehard Platinum has out lasted the last 3 Optima Yellow Tops.

rubitx

· #19 · Dec 5, 2010

Just installed P1 due to failed yellowtop. Like Elwarpo"s post of 2 side by side.

Kate

· #20 · Dec 5, 2010

Elwarpo said:

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