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For you carry-types, when wheeling, what do you guys do when you carry a handgun in your Rubi - locked up under the seat in a Tuffy box, or something else? What about long guns?
 

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johncanfield said:
For you carry-types, when wheeling, what do you guys do when you carry a handgun in your Rubi - locked up under the seat in a Tuffy box, or something else?
It is either on me or pinched tight between the seat and console for easy access. The tuffy underseat drawer is to lock it up in case a business is not CCW friendly. When wheeling, I rather have it on me and prefer not leaving it in the vehicle since I am constantly spotting for others and the rig is not always in view.



What about long guns?
State laws vary. Mine are always locked in a box with ammo separate. I rather keep it hidden from prying eyes especially in a softtop'd rig.
 

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Thanks Greg.

Just bought our first handgun today (Ruger SR40) and dear wife and I are signed up for concealed carry classes. I'm wondering if I should spend the bucks on a Tuffy lock-box for the Ruger. It would be nice to throw the Mini-14 in the back as well.
 

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The burden is on the gun owner to understand the requirements of the state the vehicle is in. Firearm laws are NOT something where you can tell the judge that it was legal in the state you live in, as it would be with Jeep accessories and mods.

In California the firearm can only be transported unloaded in a locked compartment and seperate from the ammunition. Long guns or handguns, basicly the same. I know somebody who paid a first time $1000 fine because he forgot this once and the game warden walked by and discovered a single shell in the magazine of his 12g pump shotgun. There are no warnings and no exceptions.
 

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Gary - yup - roger that. I'm researching NM, CO, UT laws and as I recall, all consider the vehicle an extension of the home (carry in the vehicle is no probelmo), and I will have reciprocity with my soon-to-be-acquired CC permit.
 

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johncanfield said:
Gary - yup - roger that. I'm researching NM, CO, UT laws and as I recall, all consider the vehicle an extension of the home (carry in the vehicle is no probelmo), and I will have reciprocity with my soon-to-be-acquired CC permit.

John,

congratts on the new gun and taking a CCW class

i have the UT Non -Resident permit and Las Vegas CCW

the UT is valid in many states.
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check the laws, but most states allow carry in vehicle, but if your pulled over by LEO you must let them know you have guns right up front. unless your in texas or alaska in which case everybody is armed so they just assume your packing heat.
 

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I carry my pistol on me when driving/wheeling... but I'm considering a tuffy underseat drawer to stash it when I want to. Sometimes it's uncomfortable to wear the firearm in the seat for a long period of time. I haven't found a good bolt-on holster to put inside the driver-side of the vehicle so I can have it handy when driving without having to wear it. (Anyone have a suggestion?)

As Mac says, UT has the most reciprocity for CCW (can't remember number... in the 30s). CO, which I have, has it with 27 other states. AZ, VT, and AK allows conceal without a permit. In CO you can carry loaded in the car. For CA, I always assume they hate you having a gun at all (you know, Nazi thugs and all that), so I don't take my firearms to CA because carrying ammo apart from a firearm is worse than just throwing rocks at a bad guy.

I don't carry a long gun in my Jeep. If I did, I'd likely just keep it in the case and only to places with low risk break-ins, like camping in the national forest or at the rifle range.
 

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Greg, that would take up way to much leg room in that position... Even a holster that tucks between the seat and the center console would be good. Tucking it just won't work for me as I want it secure and in the same place every single time....
 

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Eric said:
unless your in TEXAS or alaska in which case everybody is armed so they just assume your packing heat.
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Greg, that would take up way to much leg room in that position... Even a holster that tucks between the seat and the center console would be good. Tucking it just won't work for me as I want it secure and in the same place every single time....
I think it would work when attached to the bottom of the console and to the top below the lid. Depends how long the 1" cord is.
 

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Normally any of mine are ON me anywhere anyway, and even so, when wheeling. I usually always have something on or with me within reach. HOWEVER, I am seriously considering getting one of those tuffy lock boxes for under the seat like you mention to store it for the few times when I need to leave it in the Jeep for whatever reason. Seldom as it may be, it happens from time to time and I'd rather have it under lock than in the open.

That said, for simple trips to the ranch, in/out or when my wife doesn't feel like packing hers, somethingis usually always in the spot between the seatbelt and the center hump. It's a spot that can be reached from the seat and pulled through if need be, or between the seat and console wedged in there.

On the Utah permit-I THINK it's good in 38 states if I remember right. I JUST missed the class this year-one of our local gun shops offers the required 4 hour training class once a year for a minimal fee. As I understood it, that class is required regardless of residency in Utah. Once you pass that class, you then send in the certificate along with fingerprints and check for the permit to the state of Utah. You get your Utah permit in the mail a few weeks later. I THINK it's good for 5 years if I'm not mistaken. Like I said, I JUST missed getting in the class this year-they only take a limited number each year. Hopefully I won't miss it next year...

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gregert12 said:
kidmugg said:
I I haven't found a good bolt-on holster to put inside the driver-side of the vehicle so I can have it handy when driving without having to wear it. (Anyone have a suggestion?)
I saw this at last years NRA show and it would work. ($35)

http://www.gumcreekcustoms.com/Universal-Vehicle-Holster-Mount-p5.html
That looks like it would work okay. I'm not really thrilled about wedging the gun between the seat/seatbelt and center console.

Permit-wise:

I'll have reciprocity with UT/NM/CO which are the states of travel for this summer. Interestingly, Colorado only accepts Texas permits issued to residents and don't accept permits Texas issues to non-residents. Texas has quite a bit of reciprocity among other states so that should work fine, at least for this year.

CC test:

We're lucky living on acreage - it's a short walk to our firing range :cheesy: Dear wife and I quickly went through a box of 50 shells, I didn't tell her we just shot up $25. We were shooting at a rifle target at 7 yards and wife managed to put a couple of rounds actually in the target. For the last 10 or so rounds I shot, I finally managed to get things figured out and I put about eight rounds on target (about 8" or 9" circle.)

DW has no fear of handling/shooting the gun which really surprised me. I had her loading magazines, dropping/inserting magazines, chambering a round, etc. She has a little trouble pulling the slide back but I think she now has that figured out. Need to work with her some more on firearm safety and she needs a lot more shooting time (me too!)
 

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That is awesome-I am SO thrilled to hear your better half is interested in shooting and you two are able to do that together. Great news! I didn't have too much trouble teaching mine to shoot, but talking her into her own CC permit took me a bit. After about 7 years of marriage, I finally talked her into it. I was so proud of her when we went down together and re-newed mine and shegot her first. Was a really cool feeling. We're going on 9 years this June so maybe a new gun for her is in order to celebrate... :laugh:

Have fun together!

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Mike - I thought I knew my wife really well after 30+ years of marriage, but her embracing the idea of a) buying a handgun and b) going through a carry class really caught me off-guard. I'm signed up for the Feb class and she's going the following month.

Here's a good description of the Texas shooting requirements. Looks like I need to look for a deal on a box of 500 rounds and buy some B-27 targets.

Thanks Mike

(Now I know what to get her for a B'day or Christmas present - her own handgun!)
 

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Since we're talking about wives who shoot...

I signed my wife up for a CC class (classroom only). She was game since I told her I was going. And I told her it'd be good to have some gun education since we'll be living in the woods and may need to use a gun at some point. She agreed to go.

She went into the class leery of guns and seeing no reason to own a handgun. Three hours later she left a gun-advocate. All it takes is real-world stories and an education on the purpose of self-defense to convince her. Now she's a proponent of all women carrying firearms because that levels the playing field against a male aggressor. Over 99% of all violence against women come at the hand of a man. Men are physically strong than women. But no man is physically stronger than her H&K and Kimber.

After that, she joined me at Thunder Ranch for three days of intensive training with Clint Smith. She's a killer shot and conceal carries. I wouldn't mess with her. And don't between mama bear and her baby (in CO you can use lethal action during a kidnapping too!). When people poo-poo me carrying a weapon, I have to inform them I carry to protect my son and I ask them, "What will you do to protect my son from being kidnapped?" The argument closes down because all most anti-gunners hear are weird emotional and irrational stories and they form an opinion based on the wrong thing.
 

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That's a good story Dale! Our realtor friend and ex-neighbor always carries when working and she's a tall (over 6') and strapping woman - not overweight, just a tall girl (I think she said she was the first female firefighter in maybe LA? - forgot exactly.) She sleeps with her handgun under her knees since she's a single gal.

Not to get off on a carry tangent (well, it is my thread :) ), it is a real shame somebody very nearby wasn't carrying when that nutcase shot up those people in Tuscon.
 
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