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I have had a grind coming from my rear passenger brake for about a week. I have ordered EBC pads and centric rotors and will be installing them tommorow. I just got under the jeep to inspect the brake housing. I noticed that the passenger side back plate (adjacent to the axle), is bent towards the axle on the bottom half. I reached up between the plate and the rotor and felt the parking brake spring felt out of place. I didnt feel any rocks, just the parking brake spring and star adjuster. Im thinking they might have came loose and got stuck between the rotor and the back plate.

I will post a pic ASAP. Has anyone ever had this issue? Will I need to replace the E-Brake shoes/ back plate?? Can the plate be bent back, once I reattach the spring and star adjuster properly (assuming this is what caused it to bend)?

Sorry if I'm using the wrong terms, I've never worked on the brakes before except to retighten the star adjuster...

I'd appreciate any help..

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Re: Bent Rear Parking Brake Shoe

just replace the park shoes and hardware and hammer the backing plate back flat or until it dosent rub any more

good luck
 

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Re: Bent Rear Parking Brake Shoe

Eric said:
just replace the park shoes and hardware and hammer the backing plate back flat or until it dosent rub any more

good luck
I tried locating the parts, but am having trouble. Anyone have the pt #'s?

working on pictures..
 

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buterbn said:
Eric said:
just replace the park shoes and hardware and hammer the backing plate back flat or until it dosent rub any more

good luck
I tried locating the parts, but am having trouble. Anyone have the pt #'s?

working on pictures..

DELCO REAR PARK BRAKE SHOES P/N 17745B
CARLSON HARDWARE KIT P/N H7328

either should be able to be cross refrenced into another brand
 

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Re: Bent Rear Parking Brake Shoe

Eric,
Thanks for the part numbers. I'll look into it.

As for the pictures, I finally got them up..





And for reference, here is the driver side not bent.

 

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Re: Bent Rear Parking Brake Shoe

Oh ok... I was thinking it had done something a little different than what the pictures show. I'd do exactly as Eric has suggested. Doesn't look to be a huge deal damage wise.
 

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Re: Bent Rear Parking Brake Shoe

The gap is actually bigger than it looks in the pictures. Its almost a 2 inch gap.

I have ordered the parking brake shoes and hardware.

I appreciate all the help thus far. I'm sure Ill have some more questions when I get the parts.

Jason
 

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Re: Bent Rear Parking Brake Shoe

Okay, I finally got the parking brake parts and pads..

I have redone my drivers side, and am working on the damaged passenger side now..

When I got the rotor off, the parking brake pads fell to the ground. It seems all the hardware had fallen out on the road somewhere and allowed the pads to get loose. They then got displaced and lodged between the axel and the back panel. The parking brake pads were very much destroyed.. They are bent and one of them was sheared in half.



I also noticed my parking brake cable wasn't connected. After closer inspection it seems the clip that latches to the cable end, had gotten bent closed so I had to grind it back open to reattach the cable..



I was able to reattach the parking brake but am not sure if I lost a part that wasn't included in the hardware kit.. The metal piece that connects to the cable and goes through to the parking brake pads is very loose and after looking back at the finished drivers side I think I'm missing a piece that goes underneath this piece. I realize this is very hard to understand, but if you have ever replaced the parking brake padsplease let me know if this looks wrong..



You can see it protruding towards where the pads will go, however below it is a tab that got slightly bent.. But is there something that is supposed to go between the connecting piece and the bent tab, to support the piece or pivot off of it?



I'd appreciate any help as I have the Jeep jacked up and want to put the parking brake back together, but wanna make sure I won't have to pull it apart again later, unless I have to get another part..

thanks
Jason
 

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Does anyone have the factory writeup for Parking Brake replacement or maintenance?
 

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My parking brake froze on the drivers side, and I replaced the shoes last night, and figured out why it froze. What you call the connecting pieces are the actuators that spread the top of the parking brake shoes to engage the brake (obvious, sorry). These two pieces pivot on themselves. The pivot point between the two connecting pieces on mine was rusted together! The bent tab can be bent downward to help facilitate the remove of the connecting pieces. After cleaning the connecting pieces I smeared them with anti-seize, reinstalled them and bent the tab back up, make sure it is not bent too tight that it binds the actuators.

There are no other parts in this area, just the two halves of the connecting pieces and the tab. When you take the connecting pieces out you will notice that the tab is bent upward in the center in a "v" shape. This is the pivot point of the connecting pieces the lower piece has a large circular indent that this "v" shape fits into.

I wish I had the hardware part number before I started. LOL NAPA does carry the shoes, $35 including the core charge!

I haven't had this problem....yet!
 

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looking more at the pictures, you may be missing the lower plate on the connecting pieces. This piece moves the front shoe. I maybe placing the shoes on the right side tonite, depends on what today brings at work. If I do I will take a couple of pictures of the connecting pieces.
 

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looking more at the pictures, you may be missing the lower plate on the connecting pieces. This piece moves the front shoe. I maybe placing the shoes on the right side tonite, depends on what today brings at work. If I do I will take a couple of pictures of the connecting pieces.
Exactly my problem. After looking over the otherside more closely, and testing the parking brake. I realized I'm missing the bottom half which moves the front shoe..

I can't seem to figure out what part or part # that is though.. I looked through the service manual and still haven't found the part name or part number.. Furthermore, these parts were not included in the shoe hardware kit I got..

Hmm, more searching..... anyone ?
 

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Furthermore, I ran into another problem.. ARGH.. My brake bleeder valve on my front passenger caliper was seized and would not budge.. After some PB blaster and a torch I got it moving, until the head sheared off and left nothing to grab it with..

I just picked up a new caliper at CarQuest, but while installing my top caliper bolt the threads broke down.. Now the bolt just spins and does not hold...

I realize I'm going to have to retap or thread the bolt hole.. Anyone had to do this before? Which size do I go up to for bolt and thread...

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Furthermore, I ran into another problem.. ARGH..
Dude, I am glad someone else has bad luck besides me. Sometimes every thing I touch turns into a nightmare. Good luck with the rest of the repair.
 

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I just picked up a new caliper at CarQuest, but while installing my top caliper bolt the threads broke down.. Now the bolt just spins and does not hold...
If it took no pressure to destroy the threads, it sounds like the caliper is junk. Why not return? It would be a lot safer to get a new one instead of using a helicoil or retapping.
 

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buterbn said:
I just picked up a new caliper at CarQuest, but while installing my top caliper bolt the threads broke down.. Now the bolt just spins and does not hold...
If it took no pressure to destroy the threads, it sounds like the caliper is junk. Why not return? It would be a lot safer to get a new one instead of using a helicoil or retapping.
No it was actually the thread hole on the Steering Knuckle that got destroyed... Although it could have been the bolt replacements they gave me that did it.. Sounds like I need to get one of these steering knuckle saver kits..
http://thetoymouse.com/Jeep-Style-Steer ... PFPLTE.htm
 
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