Rubicon Owners Forum banner

361 - 380 of 393 Posts

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #361
Steel. We tested it to 2000 psi. The diameter of the hole in the middle is very large so should be good for solid flow.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #362
Well I finally got all the pieces together and bled the steering system. Steering is solid and I think the line is going to work fine with the PPW tray sitting just above it. There was nothing easy about getting this completed and the belt is not exactly straight so I do have ongoing concerns but today was a huge milestone. Before I pulled the oil pressure gauge I ran her up and down the road 3 or 4 times fairly quickly and I can now see the potential.. she's fast! Fitting was very tight but the clearance is now perfect from both the frame and the engine. Baby steps.






Waiting on a new gasket from the dealership then I should be able to drive her without the loss of engine oil.




How she sits at the moment. Lots to clean up and wiring to loom and route then weld some tabs on the driver's side hoop for the PPW tray.

 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #365
Glad things are moving forward
Me too. Next week has temps in the mid 60's so I am really looking forward to getting this rig driving and seen around town.


What are you going to do for an air filter, looks pretty tight in there.

Fitler shouldn't be too big an issue, should sit just above the motor. Going with a dry style filter. There is a lot of looming and whatnot so trying to get all that organized and pretty is going to be a feat but that is also my specialty so looking forward to warmer weather and getting my hands on all that wiring. Doing 0-70 mph runs with everything just sitting on the motor should be concerning however I can see it while driving given the hood is removed and everything just sits in place. lol. Try don't that at home kids.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
208 Posts

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #367
That will be who I call. Filter is on the priority list. Thanks again for the direction. I am looking forward to getting back in touch with Real Performance for my tune in the coming weeks.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #368 (Edited)
Well I walked into a puddle of power steering fluid this morning and after putting the new gasket on the oil pressure sensor housing it was quite obvious that POS gasket is not going to do the job so we are two steps back.

If you read my initial post my apologies but I've about had it. Post was edited within minutes of hitting the little button.
 

·
Moderator
Joined
·
3,430 Posts
Is it power steering or engine oil that's leaking? Can you get a picture of the problem?
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #371
I have two leaks. One is the power steering leak and the other is a leak coming from around the oil pressure sensor plate on the side of the engine just above the oil filter. I paid Folbeck 4x4 $528 to repair the leak but they failed and while they did put a nice new oil pan gasket on they missed the actual issue leaving me hanging.. I mean heck they didn't even check after they put the oil pan gasket on to see if the leak stopped. Pretty pathetic, especially given they claim to be LS specialists. Pretty expensive gasket replacement. Seems to be a pattern.. I bring Jeep in for work and get screwed and still pay the bill. It's proving to be a very frustrating issue on top of the power steering issue. I can still run it some but engine oil is slowing dripping out of that area.
 
  • Like
Reactions: johncanfield

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #372
I just called Folbeck to see if they can help given they did the work and didn't fix the issue. Waiting to hear back...
 
  • Like
Reactions: johncanfield

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #374 (Edited)
The leak from the power steering is due to the weld not holding on the fitting I made. While I thought it was tested to 2000 psi for whatever reason the fluid is coming through seeps of the welds so I think I can remove and give it another shot. As for the engine oil leak the gasket is not holding pressure.. not sure if the seal is just a pos or if there is a more serious issue with the machining of the oil pan but for whatever reason oil is getting pushed out from that area under pressure. There is nothing pushing down on it and the sensor itself is very light weight. For a shop like Folbeck the issue should have been an easy resolution, unfortunately for me they didn't bother to check their work to make sure the job they did was correctly executed.

I'll update how Folbeck handles the situation at this point but I am really getting sick of shops *icking me over. Jim conveniently sold the shop first of this year and they did the work in December 2019 so I am curious to see if they even call me back. They were pretty rude and dismissive when I took the Jeep to them first round and that was a huge turnoff which is why I have not taken it back. They got my $528 for an oil pan seal tho (which tuns out was not even the issue).


edit..

to clarify there are three seals on the oil pan. the oil pan seal, the gasket seal for the oil pressure sensor housing and the seal for the oil filter. It's quite obvious the seal for the oil pressure gasket is where the leak is coming from. Donnie from Folbeck just called to break the bad news they don't feel responsible but he caught wind that I was about to go the F on him so he changed his tune and said to bring it in. Monday morning I will be dropping it off for them to take a look.
 
  • Like
Reactions: johncanfield

·
Administrator
Joined
·
10,770 Posts
  • How did you weld that custom fitting - TIG? A circular weld that small of a diameter is difficult
  • That is a perfect example of an incompetent shop with no clue about good customer relations.
  • Playing with bullets :cool:
 

·
Moderator
Joined
·
3,430 Posts
  • How did you weld that custom fitting - TIG? A circular weld that small of a diameter is difficult
  • That is a perfect example of an incompetent shop with no clue about good customer relations.
  • Playing with bullets :cool:
I would definitely TIG that kind of part. Probably don't even need any filler, just heat to flow the weld and seal the leak.
 
  • Like
Reactions: johncanfield

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #378
  • How did you weld that custom fitting - TIG? A circular weld that small of a diameter is difficult
  • That is a perfect example of an incompetent shop with no clue about good customer relations.
  • Playing with bullets :cool:
MIG. I don't think it would have leaked if we had not tried to make pretty. The guy that is helping me with the fitting is doing it as a favor and not really what he does but times are tight for me financially at the moment.

As for the engine oil leak...

I was upset with Folbeck 4X4 in Reno, NV because they failed to start the Jeep after they did the oil pan service to see if the job was holding up. I took it back to them today and they removed the fitting and we found a hairline crack in the fitting that Todd covered up with some JB Weld and sanded it down. Folbeck stepped up to the plate today and turned a frustrating situation into a good outcome. I am glad they made things right and I am pleased to say I will give them future opportunities to work on the rig if they are willing. I don't ever care to burden a shop with something they feel is a PITA so if they take on the work game on.. if not no hard feelings. Getting turned down for work lets me know the shop has their priorities straight and if they don't have the time, equipment or skills to do the job I can appreciate the honesty up front and not wasting my time. Another issue comes down on Todd as JSS given he knew exactly what he did and covered it up leaving me to figure it out. Once the problem came to light and you see what happened you can then backtrack and say WTF dude?!! Unacceptable! Even if it was one of his employees that covered up the issue there is no excuse for that sh!t and if you have employees that cut corners like that it only represents your shop as a whole. $55 fitting was all I needed in the first place. Such a waste and cost me so much more time, frustration and money.


I would definitely TIG that kind of part. Probably don't even need any filler, just heat to flow the weld and seal the leak.
I will see if we have TIG option tomorrow. Not concerned with looks at this point but very close to having the issue resolved.


Out of curiosity, did you check out Earl’s Performance Fittings to see if they could make this fitting for you?
They are in Hawthorne, CA.
Unfortunately I did not know anything about Earl's, I'll Google the biz and keep them in my Jeep Rolodex for future. Thanks!
 

·
Moderator
Joined
·
3,430 Posts
That's good news on the shop. As Bob mentioned Earl's specializes in fittings, so there is a definite possibility that they can sell or make a solution for you
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,340 Posts
Discussion Starter #380
That's good news on the shop. As Bob mentioned Earl's specializes in fittings, so there is a definite possibility that they can sell or make a solution for you

It may come to that but going to try this fitting for the moment and see. When I was pulling the rig off the trailer I lost pressure. Hope there was no damage to the pump when pulling the rig in and out of the shop bay.. it's a brand new pump.
 
361 - 380 of 393 Posts
Top