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it was drivers to communicate with the ECM and stuff. Windows 11 didn't work and I could not find any other drivers. It was a day of googling it and reading forums. Could not find a mention of it, so downgraded to 10 and all was good.
The software ran, but could not talk to the device...
The software ran, but could not talk to the device...
Probably still a driver issue. Sometimes rather than using the drivers windows want you to use, you have to check to see if there are specific drivers for your device. I'm sure you know this, figured I'd mention since I have run into problems like this before, and it can take time following the rabbit trails. Maybe get in touch with the manufacturer and see what they suggest or know.
We don't want to get into the wiring part yet.
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it was a specific driver for the com port. I went to the drivers web site and they had nothing for 11. then just tried to disable it, bla bla bla
lots of googling, but at the end of the day, 10 fixed the issue.
lots of work on the wiring diagram has gone on. I need to start programing the devices to make sure I know what I am going there, before I start cutting and crimping wires. the rabbit hole of videos I have been watching, not trying to do a race inspired harness, but want it to be clean.
This is just for the PDM
That and I just like his videos
lots of googling, but at the end of the day, 10 fixed the issue.
lots of work on the wiring diagram has gone on. I need to start programing the devices to make sure I know what I am going there, before I start cutting and crimping wires. the rabbit hole of videos I have been watching, not trying to do a race inspired harness, but want it to be clean.
This is just for the PDM
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lots of wiring diagrams and planning. I sure keep forgetting about things. You would think 30 circuits would be enough, but nope.
Running the multifunction switch with out a relay and just running ground through it. Should last quite some time with out putting 40 amps through it. Same for the ignition switch, but need to test it. The PDM will control the flash and all that, will just need the ground signal for the signals, then do its thing. I'll also program it to delay the start of some accessories after engine start, but need to decide on all those parameters. The programming of it is quite fun, if this than that setup. Not difficult, but just need to think about all of it.
Today is clean up and inventory day. I have so many boxes of stuff that have been bought over the year(s), I just need to make sure of what I have and what I need. I am sure I'll have some dups and all that.
So, besides all the family stuff, lots of thinking, planning and learning this week. The ECU, Dash and PDM all have their basic config. Now just to make sure of the wires, sensors, and connectors for everything.
My ramble of the current status.
Oh, and the new control arm mounts and belly pan land tomorrow. Just another small change, thanks genright! I need to stop with the changes, ha.
Running the multifunction switch with out a relay and just running ground through it. Should last quite some time with out putting 40 amps through it. Same for the ignition switch, but need to test it. The PDM will control the flash and all that, will just need the ground signal for the signals, then do its thing. I'll also program it to delay the start of some accessories after engine start, but need to decide on all those parameters. The programming of it is quite fun, if this than that setup. Not difficult, but just need to think about all of it.
Today is clean up and inventory day. I have so many boxes of stuff that have been bought over the year(s), I just need to make sure of what I have and what I need. I am sure I'll have some dups and all that.
So, besides all the family stuff, lots of thinking, planning and learning this week. The ECU, Dash and PDM all have their basic config. Now just to make sure of the wires, sensors, and connectors for everything.
My ramble of the current status.
Oh, and the new control arm mounts and belly pan land tomorrow. Just another small change, thanks genright! I need to stop with the changes, ha.
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yep, I don't think I have ever seen instructions that are included. Well, correct that, for a roll cage I have.
Everything else I typically figure out myself, the 225 lb package should be fun!
They treat their instructions like classified documents, but if you call, they will confirm your order and email them.
i actually had to inform them of the second fuse for the multifunction switch when I was troubleshooting their stealth lights.
Sadly that cost them some business. I ordered a different brand rock slider for 3 reasons
1. Fit. Their own rocker guards are too long when installed with their own front fenders.
2. Even when you have their directions, they suck
3. Cost. $317 with free shipping vs $719 + $100 shipping
I would have gladly paid #3 if they fit
i actually had to inform them of the second fuse for the multifunction switch when I was troubleshooting their stealth lights.
Sadly that cost them some business. I ordered a different brand rock slider for 3 reasons
1. Fit. Their own rocker guards are too long when installed with their own front fenders.
2. Even when you have their directions, they suck
3. Cost. $317 with free shipping vs $719 + $100 shipping
I would have gladly paid #3 if they fit
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motobilt was going to get some Black Friday monies. But their shipping, was more than I thought it should have been. They are only about 200 miles from me. Thought about making the drive, but that is a day of my life gone. Still, shipping something similar from across the country was less. Its fun how shipping can be taken into account, on either end of the spectrum to derive the end price.
I'll also say, didn't want to go full hydro, which would have been the answer with motobilt.
All said, I will be doing something genright said could not be done or more specifically was not designed in CAD my them to guarantee to work. I think I'll be ok, it's just suspension stuff moving around and all that. I think I will be more happy than what I was doing. A bit of a drop in the belly pan will help with front drive shaft clearance overall. So that will be good.
a quick bite to eat, then back to the organization and last minute weekend purchases. Hoping the spending is all but over... I need to get this thing out of the garage and moving under its own power.
I'll also say, didn't want to go full hydro, which would have been the answer with motobilt.
All said, I will be doing something genright said could not be done or more specifically was not designed in CAD my them to guarantee to work. I think I'll be ok, it's just suspension stuff moving around and all that. I think I will be more happy than what I was doing. A bit of a drop in the belly pan will help with front drive shaft clearance overall. So that will be good.
a quick bite to eat, then back to the organization and last minute weekend purchases. Hoping the spending is all but over... I need to get this thing out of the garage and moving under its own power.
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then there is this output from the chaos of the wiring diagram. I am sure it will change again...
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2023 is probably right, I hate to look back at when I started this mess. The new house didn't help the process...
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My only, I think only, real Black Friday deal. It was for sure the best deal I got.
Belly pan and engine skid, was not aware that was part of it, woohoo. Then frame side suspension mounts. A track bar mount that I may or may not use.
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I was having some challenges with my suspension design. I was going to either need to do a body lift, lower the belly pan, or some other compromises. This should solve all that, I hope. From initial look, it should...
Hoping to get this all mocked up and control arms ordered by Sunday. Should be a quick removal of the tacked on chassis mounts and then placing the new chassis mounts. Then figure out engine skid mounts. It all should be easy to figure out with out instructions and using different parts then they use... 🤞
As I picked up the garage and removed the tub to get back to work on the chassis, I made a pile of things to do. This is the pile of stuff I need to put back in the jeep...
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I made decisions on all but the last wiring things needed. I may need to add a switch panel, trying to decide how to solve that issue. That and the parking brake placement. I am sure they will be more stuff I have forgotten about and it will be fun to check my memory about what goes where.
I must say, this has me excited again to get it finished. That and clean up the garage and use it for two cars vs just this project.
Belly pan and engine skid, was not aware that was part of it, woohoo. Then frame side suspension mounts. A track bar mount that I may or may not use.
I was having some challenges with my suspension design. I was going to either need to do a body lift, lower the belly pan, or some other compromises. This should solve all that, I hope. From initial look, it should...
Hoping to get this all mocked up and control arms ordered by Sunday. Should be a quick removal of the tacked on chassis mounts and then placing the new chassis mounts. Then figure out engine skid mounts. It all should be easy to figure out with out instructions and using different parts then they use... 🤞
As I picked up the garage and removed the tub to get back to work on the chassis, I made a pile of things to do. This is the pile of stuff I need to put back in the jeep...
I made decisions on all but the last wiring things needed. I may need to add a switch panel, trying to decide how to solve that issue. That and the parking brake placement. I am sure they will be more stuff I have forgotten about and it will be fun to check my memory about what goes where.
I must say, this has me excited again to get it finished. That and clean up the garage and use it for two cars vs just this project.
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lots of work has been going on, but you really can't tell. I have basically been removing stuff I welded to the frame. Well mostly tacked to the frame for mock up.
The frame side control arm mounts and belly pan are all bolted in place. I need to do remove some more stuff, like the belly pan nutserts, they are not used. I basically placed the pan and mounts about where I thought it should be, using my internal instructions... Looking like my rear LCAs will become my front LCAs, then rears and uppers will need to be ordered, or made have not decided. I will say, as with most TJ suspension with LCAs mounted this way, as most are, the LCAs hit the frame before travel is done. So thinner tubes allow for a bit more travel, so I may make DOM arms, not sure yet. But all seems good overall.
My only gripe is the fact that the belly pan hangs so low. But that is because of its there and mostly protecting the LCA frame mounts. That is about the only reason. I will be able to clock the transfer case much more like stock, but others than that just lots of air space. Not sure what if anything I will do with it. I am sure it will be fine once I get the tcase and muffler in. Its probably better to protect the arms, vs what my original plan was... Oh wait, the rears were out of the way, but the fronts were hanging down.
If the engine and tranny were lower, like some other engine mounts may do, not sure I would have enough up travel up front to utilize it. Since I didn't do a custom front axle and used what I had, there could have been a compromise there. I really don't think there is that much of a difference, except for $25K or so difference for different axles.
the air gap
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I could modify the exhaust and a bunch of other things, but I think I wold only really be chasing an inch or so. The collector from the passenger bank is about a quarter inch from the LCA mount. It all matters, but so does getting things done.
So, now to pull the engine, put on a new tranny pan, flip the frame and do some welding. Then all the rest, and that's allot as well.
Back to it after a bit of lunch...
The frame side control arm mounts and belly pan are all bolted in place. I need to do remove some more stuff, like the belly pan nutserts, they are not used. I basically placed the pan and mounts about where I thought it should be, using my internal instructions... Looking like my rear LCAs will become my front LCAs, then rears and uppers will need to be ordered, or made have not decided. I will say, as with most TJ suspension with LCAs mounted this way, as most are, the LCAs hit the frame before travel is done. So thinner tubes allow for a bit more travel, so I may make DOM arms, not sure yet. But all seems good overall.
My only gripe is the fact that the belly pan hangs so low. But that is because of its there and mostly protecting the LCA frame mounts. That is about the only reason. I will be able to clock the transfer case much more like stock, but others than that just lots of air space. Not sure what if anything I will do with it. I am sure it will be fine once I get the tcase and muffler in. Its probably better to protect the arms, vs what my original plan was... Oh wait, the rears were out of the way, but the fronts were hanging down.
If the engine and tranny were lower, like some other engine mounts may do, not sure I would have enough up travel up front to utilize it. Since I didn't do a custom front axle and used what I had, there could have been a compromise there. I really don't think there is that much of a difference, except for $25K or so difference for different axles.
the air gap
I could modify the exhaust and a bunch of other things, but I think I wold only really be chasing an inch or so. The collector from the passenger bank is about a quarter inch from the LCA mount. It all matters, but so does getting things done.
So, now to pull the engine, put on a new tranny pan, flip the frame and do some welding. Then all the rest, and that's allot as well.
Back to it after a bit of lunch...
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well, that didn't go as planned. Went to set up the new engine stand and discovered I didn't have the right bolts to bolt the engine to the stand. So that didn't happen, I went and did yard work instead. Hopefully later this week with the long metric bolts I ordered get here ill pull the engine and get to the chassis work.
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Are you going to change the body mounts? Looks like they are still OEM.
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Yep, they are sitting in a box somewhere, I'm sure bought 3 or more years ago. Just waiting to see if I need any body lift. Was hoping to not do any body lift so my old body can still get into the jeep.
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if your curious, the LJ frame is just around 280 lbs with the rear bumper I have on it.
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Lots of grinding was done removing my old work. All but got that done yesterday, no work on it today due to other projects.
Next I'll weld everything up on the underside and flip it back over and start on the top side. Flipping it was not all that hard, and so much better than working on the floor looking up.
Lots of grinding was done removing my old work. All but got that done yesterday, no work on it today due to other projects.
Next I'll weld everything up on the underside and flip it back over and start on the top side. Flipping it was not all that hard, and so much better than working on the floor looking up.
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Looks like your engine hoist is shop made?
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