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12-16-2014 10:38 AM
Stinger Gary, I agree entirely with you, he should not have been a cop.

I lost count of the number of arrest I made most of which were under the influence of something other than coffee. I was "on gun" many times, and several folks got thrown on the ground but never was I involved in a fight. Not necessary, and definitely not safe to either party. It is way too easy to seriously injure a person with a punch (or elbow) to a so called safe spot.
12-16-2014 07:54 AM
KaiserJeep There is a flip side to this coin.

After 10+ years experience in the US Army as an MP in Germany and the USA, my brother joined the Wisconsin State Patrol 20+ years ago. He went to the academy then rode around in a patrol car with his training sergeant. Within 2 years he was fired for failure to draw his weapon and use deadly force in accordance with policy.

The circumstances were he was one of several officers enforcing weight limits on heavy trucks. He would stop a truck and ask for the paperwork that said that they had been weighed within the state. He would always call for backup whenever he did so, in accordance with policy.

Three times when backup arrived, they found him involved in a fistfight with a truck driver. The first two times, they reprimanded him and gave him remedial training, plus desk duty until all visible evidence of the fistfight had healed. The third time, they fired him for failure to draw his weapon and make an arrest in accordance with policy.

20+ years later he can finally discuss this and says they were entirely justified. He spent most of that 20+ years as a truck driver in Wisconsin, and married to a State Patrol dispatcher. However he spent a few years before changing his mind bitterly complaining that he was fired for "not being trigger happy enough".

I'm of the opinion that he should never have been a cop. He was always looking for a fight when we were growing up.
12-16-2014 01:43 AM
geroux
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Maybe it is PTSD--although I never thought it attached to me.
I know I haven't been exposed to as extreme dangerous situations as some here.
I never fired a weapon at anyone, although I was prepared to a couple times. Had one dude in my sights.
Iraq we did get indirect mortar attacks daily. I still get jumpy at a loud unexpected BOOMs, and hate fireworks.

But to get to the point... I think we all (anyone been in a combat zone) have a little PTSD whether diagnosed or not.

I just don't care enough to go bitch to a doctor that I'm jumpy at a car backfiring and hate fireworks now.
12-15-2014 10:37 PM
Stinger Another reminder posted by one of my deputies that is now a sergeant with a crew of his own. He is remembering what I tried to teach him and apparently doing well.
https://www.facebook.com/lists/289926201018948
12-15-2014 10:13 PM
Stinger CAJW, Black Rubi. Thank you. I have heard this before but it is always good to hear it again.

For those people who have never been in "hot" combat, or have been (are) a law enforcement officer it is difficult to really understand the emotions behind some of my post. Maybe it is PTSD--although I never thought it attached to me.
12-15-2014 09:04 PM
BLACK RUBI
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Frank - Rest assured there are a ton of folks out there that "get it" and support our law enforcement every single day. Sad what the press spews out as "news" giving air time to any bozo with an opinion that helps support their slanted view.
And thank you & geroux for your service to our country.
You got that right!!!
12-14-2014 09:36 PM
CAJW Frank - Rest assured there are a ton of folks out there that "get it" and support our law enforcement every single day. Sad what the press spews out as "news" giving air time to any bozo with an opinion that helps support their slanted view.




And thank you & geroux for your service to our country.
12-13-2014 12:58 AM
geroux Before I left for Iraq we went through a course called Combat Skills Training (CST).
During one part of the class covering what to do in a split decision life threatening situation, the instructor told us, "It's better to be tried by 12 than carried by six".
12-11-2014 07:55 PM
Stinger
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good article ...

my buddy was a St Louis County PD ( we do lunch every Tuesday )
Charlie and i have talked about this case ...



mac
Absolutely!
12-11-2014 05:44 PM
mac good article ...

my buddy was a St Louis County PD ( we do lunch every Tuesday )
Charlie and i have talked about this case ...

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his thoughts is D. Wilson did the right thing.
Period.
mac
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