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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-01-2016, 12:16 PM Thread Starter
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Conceal carry story

Conceal carry holder decided to engage a better armed bad guy...hopefully we get more of the story. Usually its a bad idea to engage a rifle shooter with a pistol, but this was a bad situation in Houston:


http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05...-media-silent/

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I had to LOL at the multiple times the original story in the Daily Mail calls the AR15 a "high powered" rifle. Spin spin spin

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This is an ongoing investigation. Please be mindful of the victims and 2 officers shot in this ordeal and not post unofficial information or bias news postings. For those in blue both former and current please know to the best of my knowledge that both officers are recovering. 1 was shot in the hand and the other in the chest. The officer that was struck in the chest had a trauma plate in which successfully stopped the .223 round from penetrating.

This is a new conference from Houston Police Department hosted on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ht0m96qXAM

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I had to LOL at the multiple times the original story in the Daily Mail calls the AR15 a "high powered" rifle. Spin spin spin

Don, I saw a LOT of people shot with a .223 that think( no make that would have thought) it is high powered.


I wore a Kevlar vest everyday that I was assigned in "Patrol." I considered the 223 High Powered as it would go through my vest like butter.
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He is a brave man that stepped up when it counted. My best wishes to the injured officers and the families of the victims.

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..I wore a Kevlar vest everyday that I was assigned in "Patrol." I considered the 223 High Powered as it would go through my vest like butter....
Especially the green tip 5.56. Good thing the officers had some plates in their vests.

And.. don't bring a knife to a gun fight and don't bring a pistol to a rifle fight.

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Especially the green tip 5.56. Good thing the officers had some plates in their vests.

And.. don't bring a knife to a gun fight and don't bring a pistol to a rifle fight.



But when a pistol is all you have............
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I'm no expert... but I'd bet law enforcement would have preferred he stay out of it.

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I'm no expert... but I'd bet law enforcement would have preferred he stay out of it.
They do, as is stated in the press briefing I linked above. Many state and local law enforcement agencies would prefer civilians stay in cover and not engage the threat. One issue with engaging is when law enforcement arrives they do not know off hand who is good and who is bad. Such can create a much more complicated situation.
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Some states require a CCW holder to retreat when there is not an immediate threat to the person with the conceal carry. Of course in this case there was a clear threat to many people, and there is probably a good argument that the conceal carry was threatened as well.
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