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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 09:57 AM
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Yes, 5.13 gears for 35" tires!
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really depends on the transmission
5 speed will be a dog, was forced to regear the 04.
6 speed is ok, but you will have to downshift to 5th on some hills.
Auto say goodbye to overdrive without a strong tailwind.
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Thanks for all the responses. To answer some questions, yes the speedo was corrected with the speedo healer. I do plan to regear but havent decided to what ratio yet. I plan to add a few more skids. Oil pan for sure and debating on replacing the shovel.

I was thinking of doing the gears after the skids so I can make a better determination with the weight of the Jeep.

I ahould consider that right?

I am going on a long road trip in 2021, the Baja XL, 4,000 km from Los Angeles to Cabo San Lucas, then back to LA. Trying to prep the Jeep for that. Its an organized event but i dont want to have to rely on them if there is trouble so i wanted to build it up to reduce the likelyhood of trouble.
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Thanks for all the responses. T...…………. Oil pan for sure and debating on replacing the shovel.

I was thinking of doing the gears after the skids so I can make a better determination with the weight of the Jeep.

I ahould consider that right?
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On the shovel there is no debating it should be replaced , factory recognized it and tucked the trans up in the TJs successor JK. Its a must do in my view.

Weight doesn't matter at all . Rpms and engine torque band vs final drive is all that matters. You want to have the 4,0 in its torque band while cruising to allow it to push those extra pounds, the only way to compensate for more weight is to utilize the engine at its most efficient power/ torque range, gearing is the way to correct the engine speed(rpm) for the tire size and get the engine producing hp/tq to the ground to push the weight.

Well I should say without adding power to the engine the only way to compensate for weight is to make sure the engine is running in its power band
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Typically a stock TJ Rubi will be lugging in OD with bigger than 33 tires. New gears or smaller tires would be a good plan. This is at sea level with mostly on the flat. If you are talking some elevation or a lot of mountains/hilly country, then yes the new gears would go double. Try running with the OD switched Off. Should be better for the engine, trans and your mileage. 35s over the stock OEM tires is already like an overdrive. Later Glenn 04 Rubi
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Currie Enterprises installed 4.88 gears in our 2003 Rubicon with a Kenne Bell supercharged 4.0 liter motor, automatic transmission, and 35" BFG 315/75R16 All Terrain tires. IMHO 4.56 would have been better since the KB supercharger adds a LOT of torque AND horsepower making the annoying out-of-overdrive downshifts on every overpass less likely. Also, the 4.88 gears kick in the Kenne Bell supercharger boost fuel map ~ 70 mph which makes the MPGs go down like Stormy Daniels in a strip club. Well OK not THAT bad but still drops 3+ MPGs vs. 65 mph which OMHO makes fuel range too short with the stock fuel tank.

I think 5.13 or 4.88 would be better for non-boosted 4.0 liter motor + AT + 35" tires... but I don't have a "stock" 4.0 liter so just extrapolating.
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Stock tune is horrible for highway cruising. I could not use OD and it felt like 50% throttle made the same power as 75% throttle. It seemed to lose power past 75% throttle. For some reason these engines did not have knock sensors. To ensure that the engine did not ping, they pulled tons of timing when loads goes up. With stock gears and 35s, even small hills would slow me below 70 mph. OD was not an option.

After altering the timing tables, I use OD on the interstate except in hilly areas. I can now accelerate up hills on the interstate that would slow me down. Tuning will not in anyway replace a gear change, but will help no matter what gears or tires you have. I have 5.38s to go in it. They should help a ton. 70 mph will be just under 2500 rpm, which like others have said, that is where the 4.0 wakes up.
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You'll be happy with 5.38 gearing.
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