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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old 12-08-2019, 02:34 AM Thread Starter
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Springs and u-joints.

Hello everyone,
I have an 05 TJ Rubicon, and I just ordered a new set of front and rear dual rate springs from MetalCloak. While getting everything ready I noticed I again have some slop in both front axle u-joints. I cannot find my notes on the u-joints. In the shop I found a box marked d44 front with some Spicer 5-760x. I believe those are the right u-joints. I can't find my notes from the last time I swapped them, and for the life of me I can't remember if the Rubicon has anything wonky going on when pulling the shafts. I don't remember there being anything special that needs to be done(clips or anything.) So my new springs will be in on Tuesday, and since I will have it apart I figured I might as well knock out the u-joints again. I can't seem to get more than 15-20k out of a set of u-joints. So, if you have done the front axle u-joints on an 05 Rubicon lately, and know of anything wonky & have some tips please let me know. I also lost my notes on the front and rear driveshaft u-joints. I have been looking around & searching the site, and if I remember correctly the last time it was a pain because 05-06 had different u-joints than the prior models. I remember there was a lot of speculation as to what they were.
I think the front shaft was
Front DS- Pinion 5-212x / 5-793x
Front DS- CV/T-Case 5-213x / 5-790x
and the rear was
Rear DS at T-Case 5-3147x / 5-795x
Rear DS at Pinion 5-212x / 5-793x
If someone who knows the 05-06 can confirm this I may just knock out all the u-joints while I am down there. Thanks for your help, and I will keep searching, however when I think I have found the answer it seems there is always someone contradicting the information LOL.
Also, if anyone has put in a set of Metalcloak springs and has any tips they want to share, please let me know. From what I have gathered they seem to be quite a bit longer than other springs. I may have to find the coil spring compressor if I can't get enough droop to slide them in. I hate using that thing :-p
Thanks!!!

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It's been a while since I've pulled a front axle but I don't remember anything tricky about it. We might have a thread or post somewhere on ROF with U-Joint part numbers. An alternative is to upgrade to Revolution axles which have the larger JK U-Joints.
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going through some of this myself, but have not gotten to putting things back together.

as I understand, 1330 u going for the axles. Spicer 5-1330X U-Joint is what I ordered for the drive shafts. It will be a couple weeks before I get around to putting things back together.

Curious about the Metal Cloak Springs as well. Options for parts for this platform is getting scarce. Looking at springs as well.
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going through some of this myself, but have not gotten to putting things back together.

as I understand, 1330 u going for the axles. Spicer 5-1330X U-Joint is what I ordered for the drive shafts. It will be a couple weeks before I get around to putting things back together.

Curious about the Metal Cloak Springs as well. Options for parts for this platform is getting scarce. Looking at springs as well.
LOL this is what I was talking about, in looking around it seems most of this is a mystery. The information I found had no real consistency. I will be doing the axle shafts for sure this week or next, so I will report back to save you some hassle.
I will also let you know how the springs work out. I have teraflex springs now and they are not great. Not great at all LOL.

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It's been a while since I've pulled a front axle but I don't remember anything tricky about it. We might have a thread or post somewhere on ROF with U-Joint part numbers. An alternative is to upgrade to Revolution axles which have the larger JK U-Joints.
Thanks John, I will check those out now. The brand name sounds familiar. Are you running them?

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I was also considering picking up a couple of Tom Woods driveshafts. Seems they have some pretty good reviews. I think I may haven even used them in the past, name sounds really familiar.

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The Adams driveshaft looks like it has some pretty good reviews also.

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I have TW shafts on the TJR. Just looked at them again for the LJR, but don't want to change shafts until an axle swap that I have in mind.
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I have TW shafts on the TJR. Just looked at them again for the LJR, but don't want to change shafts until an axle swap that I have in mind.
From what I can tell it seems the big two are TW and Adams. There is also what looks to be a dana spicer shaft, however I haven't found much on that. I was looking at the price of parts to rebuild both shafts, and its not a tremendous amount more to go with a new TW or Adams. I might bite the bullet and just buy two new shafts. Are you happy with the TW?
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From what I can tell it seems the big two are TW and Adams. There is also what looks to be a dana spicer shaft, however I haven't found much on that. I was looking at the price of parts to rebuild both shafts, and its not a tremendous amount more to go with a new TW or Adams. I might bite the bullet and just buy two new shafts. Are you happy with the TW?
I was torn between Adams and TW's but I can't remember what the deciding factor was (maybe price, u-joints, or that the Adams was painted). I ended up with an Adams shaft though with no complaints.
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