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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-25-2019, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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Opinions needed, LJ or JL

I’ve previously owned 2 LJUR’s and an early Bronco. Its between the LJ and JL for me now since Ford is dragging its feet and not showing what the new Bronco will have. I’m getting back into a Jeep and can’t decide between two types. I love the LJ and am looking at a real clean Rubicon Sahara with 64k miles. I like that it is older and that would not feel the need to baby it and no hesitation in modifying. I’m also getting older and like having the heated seats and comfort/reliability of a new Jeep.

2020 JLUR or 2005 LJURS?

I would love to hear from all but especially those who have owned both. Located in California for weather and off road type.

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I love my LJ and intend on keeping it forever. But I also own a JLUR and it's a no brainer if you have to choose one of them. JL.

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You should do the JL and send me a link to the LJ that's for sale haha.

The JL is going to get better gas millage, have more modern comforts and amenities amd will have a warranty. After market parts are slowly rolling out and will be the norm and plentiful unlike TJ/LJ parts.

The LJ is a true and tried platform and is basic and works. Aftermarket parts are still around but not as much as there are for the JK and soon JL. The 4.0L is bullet proof but also a dog.

If I had the money I'd look at a stock low miles JK 4dr as I find I'd like more room than what my TJ provides. I regret not getting an LJ but I've invested too much money in my TJ now to go back. Plus if I get a new vehicle it'll be my DD and thus would need to be able to tow the Heep.

Either way you'll have a smile cause you'll be in a Jeep. Be sure to keep us posted and post pictures! I will add I do like that JL Bikini color.
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Thanks DAA, why a no brained? The JL is that far superior in every way?

Thanks 97heap, good points.
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Every way except price.

But yeah that much better.

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Thanks DAA, why a no brained? The JL is that far superior in every way?

Thanks 97heap, good points.
I compare them like driving a Tacoma, then a Tundra as a comparison. Both are pickups, yet size, ride & drive are different enough to make them not comparable. I can fit my TJ through places I wouldn't think of shoehorning a JKU/JLU. On a same/same note... Comparing my wife's previous JKU to her new JLU is a nice upgrade. Drive them all and chose what fits your needs best.
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I love my 4.0 and plan on rebuilding it when that day comes, but I am open to new thought. I jumped from an old CJ to my TJ, but at that time the coil springs over leaf and fuel injection over carburetor got my attention. The rear disc brakes didn’t hurt either.

I wish Jeep would settle down a bit and quit tweaking the formula. It reminds me of Coke where I worked for 37 years. When I first hired on I enjoyed 10 years of consistent goals and growth. Then we went through a time where we were sold off about every 3-5 years. The new owners would sell off, strip, gut, or fire anyone to increase the bottom line and sell us for a profit. I literally saw whole departments come in on a Monday and be escorted out 30 minutes later withouy notice. Finally Coke learned their lesson and went for a better long term vision. When I left it had actually returned to the business model of when I was hired.

Coke being sold....I should clarify. Someone somewhere has the ultimate power, formula, and brand name control. That entity is who decided enough is enough with the sub ownerships.

Sorry for the rant. I guess I’d be comparing the axles, axle tubes, and engine quirks. I’d be comparing which one is going to tempt me to swear more as I attempt to replace something.
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Well, my take

The LJ is a narrower package, front seat area you are closer together. Defiantly feels smaller than my JK. No real usable back seat. So interior wise gotta make some decisions there. Its the what do you want the Jeep for. Yes comparing to a JK, but the JL didnít get smaller. I like this, some may not.

Modifications for a LJ are diminishing faster than the TJ. Both are diminishing but fewer sources and options. Even less for the LJ. In the process of building the LJ and feels this way. Canít blame them not that many LJs built. If you get one make your plans quick and get the stuff you want long term.

Heated seats can be put in anything.

I also like less computer interactions in the older models. Less stuff to get in the way off road, yes I want to back into that rock wall, no I donít want to hear the beep beep or no throttle because the computer says donít do it.

All in all, itís about long term plans. No wrong answer
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I'll also add to the think long term .... the ki ks in the LJ are worked out and most if not all recalls should be figured out by now. However, mopar is is no longer really supporting the LJ so it's becoming harder to source factory parts.

The JL is new and all the bugs might not be worked out but the dealer is fully supporting the vehicle so recalls might appear but factory parts are plentiful.

Like said above it's about the long term. The JL has factory support, warranty but still might have bugs.
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I jumped from an old CJ to my TJ...The rear disc brakes didnít hurt either.
Man, the brakes on the JL... Dang! It stops. Like, actually, stops!

The JL brakes finally pushed me over the edge to do something real about the brakes on the LJ. Project isn't finished, but should be able to get it all put together over the 4th of July hopefully. 13" rotors for a 2007 Mercedes S550, dual piston calipers for a new WK2 and knuckles from an '88 XJ, hoping for some good improvement.

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