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Shooting that many rounds through the suppressor, do you need to clean it every xx rounds? I know some of the Russian ammo is dirty. I probably haven't put more than 100 rounds through my .30 cal can. (And my .22 can gets really dirty.)
Morning John! I have never had to clean my rifle cans(factory ones I have are not serviceable), and the factory rifle cans I have say it's not needed. I have ran a bore scope through a couple of them and aside from some very slight build up, there have been no must be cleaned issues. I believe the high temp combined with pressure keeps them clean. The only issue with a high round count is the blast baffle starts to disintegrate. I have a few that will need to go back for maint at some point. Pistol cans I at terrible at cleaning and often have to use a hammer and dowel to get the baffles out LOL. 22 cans are a real bugger, especially if you run a brick through and then realize you didn't clean after the last time you shot
Oh, and most of what I shoot is my reloads. I have a bunch of surplus, and yes brands like the old standby Wolf can be downright filthy. Using a piston upper on 223 can be extremely helpful in this regard.
Is your rifle can user serviceable?
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...Is your rifle can user serviceable?
Yes it is, I machined it . I have stamps for a .30 cal., .22 and a 5.56mm can yet to be machined. The .30 cal can is pretty heavy even though I necked down the stainless steel housing but it works fairly well. (I made to to handle .308 or 300 blackout, there's lots of pressure with the 308.)

I've taken the .22 can apart two or three times and it's amazing how dirty it gets from rimfire ammo. Cleaning the residue is really difficult even with solvent. That can took a long time to machine since the cones are a bit on the complex side
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Yes it is, I machined it . I have stamps for a .30 cal., .22 and a 5.56mm can yet to be machined. The .30 cal can is pretty heavy even though I necked down the stainless steel housing but it works fairly well. (I made to to handle .308 or 300 blackout, there's lots of pressure with the 308.)

I've taken the .22 can apart two or three times and it's amazing how dirty it gets from rimfire ammo. Cleaning the residue is really difficult even with solvent. That can took a long time to machine since the cones are a bit on the complex side
The last pic with the rifle on the front of the jeep is one of my form 1 cans. I went with a titanium tube and titanium blast baffle with that one(I think that's the one). Baffles are a double clipped radial cone design. First baffle also has 4 mouse holes, second baffle 2. It works nearly as good as my dead air can, however it weighs a little more. I like the tone of my can a little better than the dead air can. Have you used an ultrasonic cleaner? They work decent with a little purple power. Really minimizes the elbow grease required.
What baffle design did you use for the rifle can?
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The rifle can is all stainless steel and I think I designed it with eight or nine simple "K" baffles and both ends are removable. I was going to use titanium for the 5.56 can, there's several grades of titanium and a 30 cal can would need a higher grade of Ti which isn't easy to find. The .22 can uses K baffles almost exactly like this drawing (in fact that might have been my reference.) I had to make a special jig to hold the baffles for final machining with the vertical mill.

I did use an ultrasonic cleaner (heated) for the .22 baffles but it didn't get them completely clean. The cleaner instructions said not to use anything but water or a little soap but maybe I should try adding some kind of high power cleaner.
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The rifle can is all stainless steel and I think I designed it with eight or nine simple "K" baffles and both ends are removable. I was going to use titanium for the 5.56 can, there's several grades of titanium and a 30 cal can would need a higher grade of Ti which isn't easy to find. The .22 can uses K baffles almost exactly like this drawing (in fact that might have been my reference.) I had to make a special jig to hold the baffles for final machining with the vertical mill.

I did use an ultrasonic cleaner (heated) for the .22 baffles but it didn't get them completely clean. The cleaner instructions said not to use anything but water or a little soap but maybe I should try adding some kind of high power cleaner.
That is a really nice design, I like the k baffles, however I did not want to deal with cleaning them. I have a factory can with them and its a pain to get them out if you slack on cleaning. I don't know if this helps at all, however I have found after a lot of rounds suppressed.... I can tell you without a doubt that a spotless can is not nearly as quiet to the ear as a dirty one. To me at least. Now, I just knock off the big stuff and run them through the cleaner every once a while. Most of the time I just knock off the chunks LOL.
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Howdy fellow wheelers!! Well after about 3 hours in 4 low today, I was finally able to punch through the center of this mountain range(between two ranges) that I have been working on for a while. I had to scrap my original plan and find a better route which ate up a bunch of time. The problem was passenger side tires kept sliding off the ledge and I could go no further. I was trying to come up with some kind of plan to winch from up the hill(above me). Then route the line back through the slider and winch from the side as I went through the narrow bits, however I could not find a suitable spot to winch from. And, since I didn't want to die rolling down the mountain I turned back. The route I made & found was not as thrilling, however it was still beautiful.
I of course did a lot of hiking and shooting along the way.
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Looks like almost everywhere you trek there's signs of civilization, I suppose either mining activity or cattle.
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Looks like almost everywhere you trek there's signs of civilization, I suppose either mining activity or cattle.
Recently I have been seeking out old mining sites as they are very fun to explore and of course to go into. In Arizona it's hard to find any place that a miner hasn't drug a wagon with picks and dynamite through. I have been in the remotest places AZ has to offer and there are almost always signs of mining. A lot of ranching is done in the remote areas of AZ as ranchers can get land use permits for grazing from BLM. Last guy I bumped into had a small operation, and he stated he has a land use permit for 20k acres. They do this in the remote areas as you don't really have to fence anything off as cattle are creatures of habit, and will literally walk back and forth to the same places on the same trail daily. As for the tanks and windmills, I am not sure if it's the parks department, blm or who, but they will chopper out tanks & cement to the remotest of places and set up a well or water collection for the animals. So...in AZ you cannot escape mining, cattle or blm/game&fish/parks department. It is nice to bump into a well in the middle of nowhere, I have been drinking out of them since I was a kid. Delicious water!
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The cattle stocking rate for arid land like that is probably one animal per 250+ acres, I suppose those cattle operations are profitable even with setting up water tanks by chopper. Interesting.
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Finally got the Jeep outta the garage for the first time since September...

















Nice day exploring just West of Yosemite.

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