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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 03-19-2017, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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Question Want a winch...advice needed!

Hey there,
I'm in the market for a winch...
Requirements...
(1) Sealed for water protection
(2) 9000# pull strength min
(3) wireless remote control
(4) ability to remotely mount control pack under the hood
So far, the only thing I have found that checks all the boxes is the WARN 89611 ZEON™ 10-S Winch but $1250 is a bit steep.
Any advice is appreciated!


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post #2 of 35 (permalink) Old 03-19-2017, 07:53 PM
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Lots of posts here on ROF concerning winches in general. Might be worth your time to check some of them out.

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My Warn has never let me down when I needed it to pull out friends or fallen trees off a trail...
It's been on the front of my TJ for 15 years.

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I should have added that I've had a Ramsey winch since the mid eighties that has never failed to keep on pullin'. I bought to put on my CJ, removed it when I sold the CJ and put it on my Rubi.

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I've been wanting a winch too and so have some thoughts on this.

The cheap winch at Harbor Freight has earned good reviews on the net and 1/4 the cost. Quadratec and other off road parts houses have other brands that are also much cheaper than Warn and have decent reviews.

But... Any winch is going to add weight and that is going against the trend of keeping light for better handling and performance. Some of the fellows I've asked locally claim they have never use their winch after many years. Just got back from a 10 day Jeep back country trip with 14 other Jeepers and never needed a winch, although one guy readied one once but we got the stuck guy out with a few placed rocks.

I'm not as experienced as many on ROF but developing an opinion. If you need to get out of a fix in the back country, and by yourself, a winch pays for itself.

I think I will get a cheaper winch and at $300 even if it doesn't last not going to break the bank. Think I will mount it on the stock bumper that is light so don't over weight the front too much.

Pic for interest: Setting up to winch the Red Jeep that is pinned on a rock. A few placed rocks allowed it to backed off and take the go-around.

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You can save a few hundred by going with steel cable instead of synthetic line on any winch. After lots of research I got the Warn M-8000, it's highly proven and not too expensive. I know you want a 9000lb winch, but with a snatch block that difference is almost irrelevant. Twice a year warn runs rebates on all their winches, I think I got $100 back on mine which I purchased through Amazon and was only about $5-600. Warn makes a wireless remote that will work with all of their winches. Yes, you can save a few hundred with other brands, but it is Warn's warranty and customer service track record that convinced me to spend the extra money.
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My Warn has never let me down when I needed it to pull out friends or fallen trees off a trail...
It's been on the front of my TJ for 15 years.
same for me....same Warn for over 10 years

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Bob, consider that you are most likely to discover that your bargain winch has failed when you need it most and in an area where repair or replacement won't help you out of the current situation.

Your recovery gear should be the most reliable you can afford.
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.....But... Any winch is going to add weight and that is going against the trend of keeping light for better handling and performance. Some of the fellows I've asked locally claim they have never use their winch after many years. Just got back from a 10 day Jeep back country trip with 14 other Jeepers and never needed a winch, although one guy readied one once but we got the stuck guy out with a few placed rocks....
Weight on the very front (within reason) isn't a bad thing - it can keep the front from unloading on a steep climb. That 75 pounds of a winch can help neutralize the spare tire weight hanging on the rear.

The very last choice for me in a recovery is a winch due to the time involved. First choice is to stack rocks (like your situation), second choice is a strap but sometimes those two options aren't possible once you start doing the harder trails. In those situations only a winch (or two) is the only way to get somebody out of trouble.

But for those winching situations, you really need a 100% dependable product. One time in St. George two of us were pre-running a hard trail and my friend took an optional route and got in a very precarious situation, he was rocking back and forth on two opposite tires at the edge of a small canyon.

We were afraid he was going to roll two or three times down the canyon. I got a winch line on his corner and pulled him back and then kept tension on him as he made his way off the edge and down the trail. A short diversion off the main trail for him almost turned into a very ugly situation.

So the moral of the story is, for some situations you really need a winch, and it needs to be 100% reliable. Even on a Forest Service road you might need to pull a blowdown off the trail, pull somebody out of a mud hole (too far away for a strap), etc. Some recoveries will need two winch equipped vehicles.
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With John's and svtotem's explanation, I must agree the smart buy is a quality winch over a cheap considering "your life might depend on it." Also glad to hear that a winch may help balance the Jeeps weight.

I will be watching for your winch purchase and install thread
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